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Patent medicine regulation has just reverted back to the days of the Wild West:
A decision by a federal appeals court this week could have a dramatic impact on the marketing of prescription drugs in America, potentially affecting patient care and everything from TV drug advertising to future government prosecutions - prosecutions that have in the past yielded billions of dollars in settlements - doctors and attorneys said Tuesday.

"This risks taking us back to an era when people could promote snake oil without restrictions - a situation I would hate to see," said Richard Deyo, a professor of family medicine at Oregon Health & Science University.

However, others say the ruling is a victory for free speech, one that could become the drug industry equivalent of Citizens United, the 2010 U.S. Supreme Court decision that gave corporations and unions the right to spend unlimited sums on political ads.

Like the Citizens United case, the ruling Monday by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit in New York, involved the right of commercial free speech, applying it to the complicated world of pharmaceutical industry promotion of prescription drugs.

How wide-ranging the decision becomes likely will depend on whether it gets to the U.S. Supreme Court, attorneys said.

For years, it has been illegal for drug companies to promote their products for uses not approved by the Food and Drug Administration, what is known as off-label marketing. But doctors are free to prescribe approved drugs for whatever purpose they want.

The case involves Alfred Caronia, a sales representative with Orphan Medical, who was criminally prosecuted for making off-label promotional statements about Xyrem, a drug approved in 2002 to treat narcolepsy patients with a condition known as cataplexy. Cataplexy involves weak or paralyzed muscles.

The FDA had put a black box warning on the drug stating its safety and effectiveness had not been established in people under 16. The active ingredient in Xyrem is GHB, a powerful medication that acts on the central nervous system and also is known as the "date rape" drug.

In 2005, the federal government began investigating Orphan Medical for its alleged off-label promotion of Xyrem.

In a taped conversation Caronia had with a doctor who was cooperating with the government, he said the drug could be used for other muscle conditions such as fibromyalgia, restless leg syndrome and Parkinson's.

He also said it could be used in patients under 16.

Caronia had claimed his off-label promotion was constitutionally protected free speech, saying the First Amendment does not permit the government to prohibit or criminalize a drug company's truthful, non-misleading off-label promotion to doctors.

The appeals court essentially agreed, noting that Caronia never conspired to put false or deficient labeling on the drug.

"The government clearly prosecuted Caronia for his words - for his speech," the court said.

"This could be a watershed moment for the pharmaceutical industry," said Michael Buchanan, a former federal prosecutor who now works for a New York law firm that represents drug companies.

He said the decision will be good for consumers and doctors because it will allow drug companies to disseminate more information about their products, allowing for more informed decision-making.

It is likely the decision, if upheld, will make it much more difficult for the Department of Justice to bring cases against drug companies for off-label drug promotion, he said.

Over the last decade, or so, the Justice Department has obtained billions of dollars from drug companies after accusing them of promoting their products for off-label uses.

In July, the department obtained a record $3 billion settlement from GlaxoSmithKline for its marketing of several drugs, including Wellbutrin, Paxil and Advair.

Tamara Piety, an expert on commercial speech and the First Amendment and a professor of law at the University of Tulsa, said the decision could open the door to off-label television advertising of drugs if it is upheld by the Supreme Court, which she predicted would be sympathetic to the ruling.

She said the pharmaceutical industry has been trying to get off-label promotion overturned for years.

"It looks like they finally succeeded," she said.

Steven Nissen, a cardiologist with the Cleveland Clinic, said the decision was shortsighted and could result in patients being exposed to unnecessary risks.

"Off-label promotion is not about free speech - it is the medical equivalent of yelling fire in a crowded auditorium." he said.

Andrew Kolodny, a New York psychiatrist who has been trying to reform the use of narcotic painkillers in the U.S., said the decision was terrible for public health.

A large portion of Americans already are taking drugs with serious risk that outweigh the benefits, he said.

"This is going to get much worse," he said. "It's a safe bet that health outcomes will decline from medication side effects, while spending on prescription drugs will continue to rise."

Ed Silverman, who operates the popular Pharmalot blog, said drug companies had been pushing off-label promotion as a free-speech issue for years. "It (the decision) is vindication for the pharmaceutical industry," he said.

In a statement, the Pharmaceutical and Research Manufacturers of America said it was pleased the court found that the FDA's ability to regulate communication about medicine is circumscribed by the First Amendment.

"PhRMA believes that truthful and non-misleading communication between biopharmaceutical companies and health care professionals is good for patients, because it facilitates the exchange of up-to-date and scientifically accurate information about new treatments," PhRMA spokesman Matthew Bennett said in a statement.

Sidney Wolfe, a doctor with the watchdog group Public Citizen, said the decision will further weaken the FDA.

Caronia, the defendant in the case, was accused of conspiring with a psychiatrist who was a hired drug company speaker.

In overturning his conviction, the appeals court cited a 2011 U.S. Supreme Court decision involving a Vermont law that said "speech in the aid of pharmaceutical marketing . . . " is a form of expression protected by the First Amendment. The law had barred drug companies from obtaining and using prescriber information for marketing purposes when a range of others, such as private and academic researchers, could acquire the information.

The Court of Appeals said the government's view of the law essentially legalized off-label prescribing but prohibited the free flow of information about that.

Arnold Friede, a former FDA and drug company attorney, said the next step may be for the government to ask the entire appeals court to rehear the case. This week's decision was made by a three-judge panel.
How about this - if drug companies want to market drugs for new indications, they pay for the fucking clinical trials, they get the fucking evidence, they submit it to the fucking FDA, they get it fucking approved, and they put it on the fucking label. Until then, they fucking shut up about it.

Make no mistake, this decision, if upheld, WILL result in more people injured and killed from improperly prescribed drugs.

Looks like it's time to completely ban ANY forms of marketing by pharma - the only information they should be able to release about the drug is the approved product monograph. Physicians are quite competent to prescribe for their patients without snake oil salesmen puffing up the alleged benefits of their products.
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I get your point and don't disagree with the concerns stated in the article. However, doctors routinely prescribe drugs for off-label use. How do doctors obtain information about off-label use? It would seem that one way is to hear from pharma reps. Obviously, a doctor has to take what they say with healthy skepticism, but it would seem that to the extent the reps are educating doctors in the use of medications, it is up to the doctors to confirm what they are told before making an on-label or off-label use of any drug.

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And the drug in this case...Jesus H. Christ there couldn't have been a better poster child for a drug for which it is absolutely essential that there be no funny business in prescribing, but no, the company needs to push it so they claim it works for all sorts of unproven uses, sure let's exponentially expand the population using it so that we can exponentially expand the potential for abuse.
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I doubt there will be much difference or problem.

If you think it will change things, you must believe that doctors now write prescriptions based on what they see & hear on TV & radio.

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Looks like it's time to completely ban ANY forms of marketing by pharma
That would certainly leave the cable news channels with a lot of dead air....
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Joe Guy wrote:I doubt there will be much difference or problem.

If you think it will change things, you must believe that doctors now write prescriptions based on what they see & hear on TV & radio.
I certainly believe that doctors are influenced by what they hear from pharmaceutical marketing reps, and by the pressure put on them by patients based on what they see and hear on TV and radio.

If pharmaceutical companies didn't believe their marketing worked, they wouldn't spend tens of billions of dollars on it every year, would they?
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The pharma companies are hoping to get patients to ask for certain drugs.

Doctors that are influenced enough to prescribe name brands get kick backs from sales reps, not on air commercials.

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Joe Guy wrote:The pharma companies are hoping to get patients to ask for certain drugs.
Yes, and by being able to advertise off label uses on TV, etc., they are hoping to get patients to ask for certain drugs for those uses as well as for the approved ones.
Doctors that are influenced enough to prescribe name brands get kick backs from sales reps, not on air commercials.
Doctors are influenced by all manner of things, which is why pharma marketing is multipronged.

This isn't rocket science. Why is pharma so overjoyed about this ruling if they don't believe it will work to their advantage?
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It wiil work to big pharma's advantage if patients ask doctors to prescribe name brand drugs. Doctors don't really care whether or not a patient wants a certain manufacturer that may cost the patient more.

It's the health insurance providers that are trying to save money by substituting generic drugs & it's patients that will have a higher copayment that will be affected most.

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Holy fucking hell.

One of the worse decisions I have ever heard of. Only a moron calls drug reps fantasy representations "free speech". How shrieking goddamn lying stupid are they?



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Joe Guy wrote:It wiil work to big pharma's advantage if patients ask doctors to prescribe name brand drugs. Doctors don't really care whether or not a patient wants a certain manufacturer that may cost the patient more.

It's the health insurance providers that are trying to save money by substituting generic drugs & it's patients that will have a higher copayment that will be affected most.
This has absolutely nothing to do with substituting generic drugs. This is about using drugs for indications for which they have not been approved.
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This decision is terrible and nonsensical. In the first instance, advertising and marketing has always been held to a lesser standard with respect to free speech. But drug products in particular have always had their labeling, advertising and marketing claims reviewed and regulated by the FDA to ensure safety and prevent false and misleading representations. Is the FDA now going to be prohibited from regulating labeling and packaging because it tramples on the free speech of the manufacturers? That is the obvious next step on the slippery slope.

I am all in favor of more information with respect to drugs, but it should be truthful and useful information. Off-label use is off-label precisely because there is insufficient medical support for the drug's use for those conditions. If the manufacturers want it to be sold for additional uses, then they should prove the drugs' safety and effectiveness for those uses before being allowed to advertise and market for them.
GAH!

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It won't stand, they're just trying to see who's awake...

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[Title 21, Volume 4]
[Revised as of April 1, 2012]
[CITE: 21CFR201.56]



TITLE 21--FOOD AND DRUGS
CHAPTER I--FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
SUBCHAPTER C--DRUGS: GENERAL

PART 201 -- LABELING

Subpart B--Labeling Requirements for Prescription Drugs and/or Insulin
Sec. 201.56 Requirements on content and format of labeling for human prescription drug and biological products.

(a)General requirements . Prescription drug labeling described in 201.100(d) must meet the following general requirements:

(1) The labeling must contain a summary of the essential scientific information needed for the safe and effective use of the drug.

(2) The labeling must be informative and accurate and neither promotional in tone nor false or misleading in any particular. In accordance with 314.70 and 601.12 of this chapter, the labeling must be updated when new information becomes available that causes the labeling to become inaccurate, false, or misleading.

(3) The labeling must be based whenever possible on data derived from human experience. No implied claims or suggestions of drug use may be made if there is inadequate evidence of safety or a lack of substantial evidence of effectiveness. Conclusions based on animal data but necessary for safe and effective use of the drug in humans must be identified as such and included with human data in the appropriate section of the labeling.

(b)Categories of prescription drugs subject to the labeling content and format requirements in 201.56(d) and 201.57 . (1) The following categories of prescription drug products are subject to the labeling requirements in paragraph (d) of this section and 201.57 in accordance with the implementation schedule in paragraph (c) of this section:

(i) Prescription drug products for which a new drug application (NDA), biologics license application (BLA), or efficacy supplement was approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) between June 30, 2001 and June 30, 2006;

(ii) Prescription drug products for which an NDA, BLA, or efficacy supplement is pending on June 30, 2006; or

(iii) Prescription drug products for which an NDA, BLA, or efficacy supplement is submitted anytime on or after June 30, 2006.

(2) Prescription drug products not described in paragraph (b)(1) of this section are subject to the labeling requirements in paragraph (e) of this section and 201.80.

(c)Schedule for implementing the labeling content and format requirements in 201.56(d) and 201.57 . For products described in paragraph (b)(1) of this section, labeling conforming to the requirements in paragraph (d) of this section and 201.57 must be submitted according to the following schedule:

(1) For products for which an NDA, BLA, or efficacy supplement is submitted for approval on or after June 30, 2006, proposed conforming labeling must be submitted as part of the application.

(2) For products for which an NDA, BLA, or efficacy supplement is pending on June 30, 2006, or that has been approved any time from June 30, 2005, up to and including June 30, 2006, a supplement with proposed conforming labeling must be submitted no later than June 30, 2009.

(3) For products for which an NDA, BLA, or efficacy supplement has been approved anytime from June 30, 2004, up to and including June 29, 2005, a supplement with proposed conforming labeling must be submitted no later than June 30, 2010.

(4) For products for which an NDA, BLA, or efficacy supplement has been approved anytime from June 30, 2003, up to and including June 29, 2004, a supplement with proposed conforming labeling must be submitted no later than June 30, 2011.

(5) For products for which an NDA, BLA, or efficacy supplement has been approved anytime from June 30, 2002, up to and including June 29, 2003, a supplement with proposed conforming labeling must be submitted no later than June 30, 2012.

(6) For products for which an NDA, BLA, or efficacy supplement has been approved anytime from June 30, 2001, up to and including June 29, 2002, a supplement with proposed conforming labeling must be submitted no later than June 30, 2013.

(d)Labeling requirements for new and more recently approved prescription drug products . This paragraph applies only to prescription drug products described in paragraph (b)(1) of this section and must be implemented according to the schedule specified in paragraph (c) of this section.

(1) Prescription drug labeling described in 201.100(d) must contain the specific information required under 201.57(a), (b), and (c) under the following headings and subheadings and in the following order:

Highlights of Prescribing Information

Product Names, Other Required Information

Boxed Warning

Recent Major Changes

Indications and Usage

Dosage and Administration

Dosage Forms and Strengths

Contraindications

Warnings and Precautions

Adverse Reactions

Drug Interactions

Use in Specific Populations

Full Prescribing Information: Contents

Full Prescribing Information

Boxed Warning

1 Indications and Usage

2 Dosage and Administration

3 Dosage Forms and Strengths

4 Contraindications

5 Warnings and Precautions

6 Adverse Reactions

7 Drug Interactions

8 Use in Specific Populations

8.1 Pregnancy

8.2 Labor and delivery

8.3 Nursing mothers

8.4 Pediatric use

8.5 Geriatric use

9 Drug Abuse and Dependence

9.1 Controlled substance

9.2 Abuse

9.3 Dependence

10 Overdosage

11 Description

12 Clinical Pharmacology

12.1 Mechanism of action

12.2 Pharmacodynamics

12.3 Pharmacokinetics

13 Nonclinical Toxicology

13.1 Carcinogenesis, mutagenesis, impairment of fertility

13.2 Animal toxicology and/or pharmacology

14 Clinical Studies

15 References

16 How Supplied/Storage and Handling

17 Patient Counseling Information

(2) Additional nonstandard subheadings that are used to enhance labeling organization, presentation, or ease of use (e.g., for individual warnings or precautions, or for each drug interaction) must be assigned a decimal number that corresponds to their placement in labeling. The decimal numbers must be consistent with the standardized identifying numbers listed in paragraph (d)(1) of this section (e.g., subheadings added to the "Warnings and Precautions" section must be numbered 5.1, 5.2, and so on).

(3) Any reference in Highlights to information appearing in the full prescribing information must be accompanied by the identifying number (in parentheses) corresponding to the location of the information in the full prescribing information.

(4) Omit clearly inapplicable sections, subsections, or specific information. If sections or subsections required under paragraph (d)(1) of this section are omitted from the full prescribing information, the heading "Full Prescribing Information: Contents" must be followed by an asterisk and the following statement must appear at the end of Contents: "* Sections or subsections omitted from the full prescribing information are not listed."

(5) Any risk information that is required under 201.57(c)(9)(iv) is considered "appropriate pediatric contraindications, warnings, or precautions" within the meaning of section 505A(l)(2) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (the act) (21 U.S.C. 355A(l)(2)), whether such information appears in the "Contraindications," "Warnings and Precautions," or "Use in Specific Populations" section of labeling.

(e)Labeling requirements for older prescription drug products . This paragraph applies only to approved prescription drug products not described in paragraph (b)(1) of this section.

(1) Prescription drug labeling described in 201.100(d) must contain the specific information required under 201.80 under the following section headings and in the following order:

Description

Clinical Pharmacology

Indications and Usage

Contraindications

Warnings

Precautions

Adverse Reactions

Drug Abuse and Dependence

Overdosage

Dosage and Administration

How Supplied

(2) The labeling may contain the following additional section headings if appropriate and if in compliance with 201.80(l) and (m):

Animal Pharmacology and/or Animal Toxicology

Clinical Studies

References

(3) Omit clearly inapplicable sections, subsections, or specific information.

(4) The labeling may contain a "Product Title" section preceding the "Description" section and containing only the information required by 201.80(a)(1)(i), (a)(1)(ii), (a)(1)(iii), and (a)(1)(iv) and 201.100(e). The information required by 201.80(a)(1)(i) through (a)(1)(iv) must appear in the "Description" section of the labeling, whether or not it also appears in a "Product Title."

(5) The labeling must contain the date of the most recent revision of the labeling, identified as such, placed prominently immediately after the last section of the labeling.

(6) The requirement in 201.80(f)(2) to reprint any FDA-approved patient labeling at the end of prescription drug labeling or accompany the prescription drug labeling must be implemented no later than June 30, 2007.

[71 FR 3986, Jan. 24, 2006][/url]

No, the FDA doesn't regulate free speech but they clearly have the ability to control labeling.
Sometimes it seems as though one has to cross the line just to figger out where it is

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The standard is simple.

The FDA requires drug makers to produce evidence which shows that a drug is safe (or in the case of a lot of anti-cancer drugs less harmful than the disease) and effective.

Allowing drug reps to say what the labels are forbidden to say muddies the waters and creates a mechanism for deception.


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I have to agree. I have said in the past that I would welcome the FDA taking more of an advisory only role (except in safety and public health risks), and permit producers to sell what they want so long as they are sure to state that the drug/use was not approved by the FDA, but that for another thread and is not the system we currently have in the US. Consumers look to the FDA for certainty, and will immediately assume that any drug on the market is proven safe and effective before it is marketed; allowing promotion of off-label uses merely muddies the water and creates a false impression in the minds of the consumers (and health care professionals for that matter--not all are that up to date with the latest publications or the data presented to the FDA--they rely on the approval as everyone else does). The courts are not the place to debate this issue; if congress wants to change the law, it can.

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Most Physicians consult some form of reference, ex. http://www.pdr.net/, before they write a scrip.

Now if a company is allowed to have anything they want printed in these references is that free speech or something else?

I still don't think it will stand...
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Wasn't Chantix originally for something else then they found it works to help stop smoking? I assume now it's a mostly stop-smoking pill but didn't it "cross treatment" before approved for stop smoking treatment? Was it ever approved for that?

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Sometimes it seems as though one has to cross the line just to figger out where it is

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That was 2011. I took Chantix way back in 2008 and I quit for 9 months until I was laid off and said F$%^ it. It does work, as it makes smoking not enjoyable at all. That "buzz" from the first butt in teh morning or after not having one for hours on end was gone. Even regular smoking was a "why bother". I may go back on the stuff after I visit my doc for a physical this/next month.

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Scooter wrote:This has absolutely nothing to do with substituting generic drugs. This is about using drugs for indications for which they have not been approved.
You're right about that. But I'm thinking about how the Viagra brand name has become so popular for people with limp dicks. If people see advertisements from pharmaceutical companies for certain benefits that they weren't originally marketed for, they are likely to ask for the brand by name. Wasn't Viagra originally a blood pressure drug?

It is ultimately up to the doctors to prescribe the drug, so if you don't trust your doctor you should be worried about the ruling.

Then again, you should be worried already if you don't trust your doctor.

Or don't take drugs.

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