"You go to get cured". Errrm... No. You go because you believe that the magic sky fairy will grant your wishes, despite the fact that it gave you cerebral palsy in the first place..A disabled woman went on a healing pilgrimage to Lourdes - and returned with broken legs.
The family of cerebral palsy sufferer Patricia Mitchell have launched legal action against the organisers of the trip after she fell 4ft from a hoist.
Mrs Mitchell, who was wheelchair-bound, broke her left leg in three places and her right leg once.
Her family say she never fully recovered from the fall and she died earlier this year aged 63.
Her sisters Pauline Scarr and Terry Featherstone are now suing for tens of thousands of pounds.
Mrs Featherstone, 60, said: 'You go to Lourdes to get cured and she came back with two broken legs. It's unbelievable.'
Mrs Scarr, 62, said: 'We want justice now for Patricia. I want answers.'
Mrs Mitchell, from Bowburn, County Durham, was born with cerebral palsy and had never been able to work. As well as her lifelong condition, she had also survived breast cancer and the death of her husband Ian in 1995.
A devout Roman Catholic, she had travelled to Lourdes several times hoping for a miracle healing, and on one occasion had met Pope John Paul II.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z0v1MpXLno
Lourdes of help
Lourdes of help
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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He gives and takes away.
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
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Fortune presents gifts not according to the book
Fortune presents gifts not according to the book
When you expect whistles it's flutes
When you expect flutes it's whistles
What various paths are followed
in distributing honours and possesions
She gives awards to some
and penitent's cloaks to others
When you expect whistles it's flutes
When you expect flutes it's whistles
Sometimes she robs the chief goatherd
of his cottage and and goatpen
And to whomever she fancies
the lamest goat has born two kids
When you expect whistles it's flutes
When you expect flutes it's whistles
Because in a village a poor lad
has stolen one egg
He swings in the sun
and another gets away with a thousand crimes
When you expect whistles it's flutes
When you expect flutes it's whistles
Fortune presents gifts not according to the book
When you expect whistles it's flutes
When you expect flutes it's whistles
What various paths are followed
in distributing honours and possesions
She gives awards to some
and penitent's cloaks to others
When you expect whistles it's flutes
When you expect flutes it's whistles
Sometimes she robs the chief goatherd
of his cottage and and goatpen
And to whomever she fancies
the lamest goat has born two kids
When you expect whistles it's flutes
When you expect flutes it's whistles
Because in a village a poor lad
has stolen one egg
He swings in the sun
and another gets away with a thousand crimes
When you expect whistles it's flutes
When you expect flutes it's whistles
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Ahh well. At least the Lord didn't break her arms. It wasn't as though she was actually using her legs after all ....
Bah!
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You don't sound like you don't believe in God, Gob.
You sound like you think he's there and that he should know, you're right pissed.
Otherwise, why get mad at a non-existent entity?
I don't get angry that there's no Hawkgirl, I'm disappointed because I'd like there to be...
oh.
You sound like you think he's there and that he should know, you're right pissed.
Otherwise, why get mad at a non-existent entity?
I don't get angry that there's no Hawkgirl, I'm disappointed because I'd like there to be...
oh.
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Is it wrong I laughed...who are they suing? God?
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Take a hint eh? God's not agreeing with you.
The State Emergency Service has confirmed that the historic Mary MacKillop Centre in the South Australian town of Penola sustained damage in a freak windstorm that hit the town.
Premier Mike Rann has committed to assisting with repairs to the centre, in time for celebrations later in the year confirming Mary MacKillop as Australia's first saint.
"The Mary MacKillop Centre has lost part of its roof and sustained some minor structural damage," the SES said in a statement on Sunday. "However, the contents of the Centre have been protected and temporary repairs are being made to the damaged section of its roof."
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-na ... 1115u.html
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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So, that's the proof of your atheism? That bad things happen to good people, so that means there is no one behind the wheel?
So short-sighted. <sigh>
'Expecting life(God) to treat you fairly because you are a good person is a little like expecting a bull not to attack you because you are a vegetarian."
So short-sighted. <sigh>
'Expecting life(God) to treat you fairly because you are a good person is a little like expecting a bull not to attack you because you are a vegetarian."
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Not at all, there is no "proof" of one's athism, you cannot prove that God, Allah, Vishnu, Odin and the flying spagetti monster do not exist. All you need to do to "prove" (a very strange concept) your athism, is to say; "I choose not to believe these fairy stories."
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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What? Where is the "circular logic"?
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Atheism is a choice not a fact, you're saying.
I believe it, it must be so = It's so because I believe it.
Just wondering, do your rail as much at the non-existent fairies in your garden? You understand that if someone were to see you spouting off in the yard about how the fairies that aren't there tick you off, you'd be thought of more than a bit daft? LOL
I believe it, it must be so = It's so because I believe it.
Just wondering, do your rail as much at the non-existent fairies in your garden? You understand that if someone were to see you spouting off in the yard about how the fairies that aren't there tick you off, you'd be thought of more than a bit daft? LOL
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I have claimed atheism is a choice, I have not claimed it is or isn't a fact. That makes no sense.
In no way, and nowhere, have I claimed; "I believe it, it must be so = It's so because I believe it."
You're throwing all sorts of irrelevant and made up suppositions into the pot here Lo, I do not see your point.
In no way, and nowhere, have I claimed; "I believe it, it must be so = It's so because I believe it."
You're throwing all sorts of irrelevant and made up suppositions into the pot here Lo, I do not see your point.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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I've been saying my point; You don't sound like a disbeliever- you just angry and disappointed at God. So, you choose Atheism, using the anger and disappoint as justification to spite him.
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Angry at something I do not believe in? Not at all.
I have no need to spite an imginary being.
I have no need to spite an imginary being.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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So why start the thread? What's your point?
You obviously want someone to know you're disgruntle- who? Why?
You obviously want someone to know you're disgruntle- who? Why?
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The point was to highlight the stupidity of going to Lourdes in hope of a magic cure.
That and "god's sense of humour".
Not to mention the whole Ted thing there..
That and "god's sense of humour".
Not to mention the whole Ted thing there..
Ted, a bon vivant, for something referred to only as "That Lourdes Thing," which apparently involved him misappropriating church funds to go on a gambling trip to Las Vegas which were intended to be used to send a poor child to Lourdes. Ted has frequently claimed that the money was merely resting in his account. Dougal points out it had been resting there for a very long time.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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One case compared to;
...tsk.
The writer of this article has recorded every recovery, whether partial or complete, and in the first half-century of the shrine's existence he has counted 3962. Notwithstanding very careful statistics which give the names and surnames of the patients who have recovered, the date of the cure, the name of the disease, and generally that of the physician who had charge of the case, there are inevitably doubtful or mistaken cases, attributable, as a rule, to the excited fancy of the afflicted one and which time soon dispels. But it is only right to note: first, that these unavoidable errors regard only secondary cases which have not like the others been the object of special study; it must also be noted that the number of cases is equalled and exceeded byactual cures which are not put on record. The afflicted who have recovered are not obliged to present themselves and half of them do not present themselves, at the Bureau des Constatations Médicales at Lourdes, and it is from this bureau's official reports that the list of cures is drawn up.
...tsk.
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It may well be that the level of medical understanding which existed nearly a century ago is not the most reliable guide to whether the "recover[ies], whether partial or complete" are properly attributable to a supernatural source.
Reason is valuable only when it performs against the wordless physical background of the universe.