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Dozens of pro-Dorner protesters rally at LAPD HQ

Updated 6:57 pm, Saturday, February 16, 2013

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Dozens of protesters rallied outside Los Angeles police headquarters Saturday in support of Christopher Dorner, the former LAPD officer and suspected killer of four who died after a shootout and fire this week at a mountain cabin following one of the biggest manhunts in recent memory.

Protesters told the Los Angeles Times they didn't support Dorner's deadly methods, but objected to police corruption and brutality, and believed Dorner's claims of racism and unfair treatment by the department. Many said they were angered by the conduct of the manhunt that led to Dorner's death and injuries to innocent bystanders who were mistaken for him.

Michael Nam, 30, who held a sign with a flaming tombstone and the inscription "RIP Habeas Corpus," said it was "pretty obvious" police had no intention of bringing Dorner in alive.

"They were the judge, the jury and the executioner," Nam said. "As an American citizen, you have the right to a trial and due process by law."

During the hunt for Dorner, LAPD Chief Charlie Beck called for Dorner's surrender and said he didn't want to see the suspect or anyone else injured.

Dorner was already believed to have killed three people when he was cornered Tuesday at the cabin near Big Bear Lake, and during the standoff shot and killed a San Bernardino County sheriff's deputy, authorities said.

Only after calls for surrender and use of milder tear gas did deputies launch pyrotechnic gas canisters into the cabin, and the subsequent fire was not intentional, the Sheriff's Department said.

Dorner died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at the end of the standoff, sheriff's officials said.

The 33-year-old has already inspired a burgeoning subculture of followers. While most don't condone killing, they see him as an outlaw hero who raged against powerful forces of authority, and some even question whether he really died.

Tributes include a ballad titled "El Matapolicias," or "The Police Killer," penned by a Mexican crooner with lyrics paying homage to Dorner, and a YouTube clip showing excerpts from a video game titled "Christopher Dorner's Last Stand Survival Game" whose opening frame declares him "A True American Hero."

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Reminds me of something:


http://classiclit.about.com/library/bl- ... tom-33.htm

"... This funeral stopped the further growth of one thing -- the petition to the governor for Injun Joe's pardon. The petition had been largely signed; many tearful and eloquent meetings had been held, and a committee of sappy women been appointed to go in deep mourning and wail around the governor, and implore him to be a merciful ass and trample his duty under foot. Injun Joe was believed to have killed five citizens of the village, but what of that? If he had been Satan himself there would have been plenty of weaklings ready to scribble their names to a pardon-petition, and drip a tear on it from their permanently impaired and leaky water-works. ... "

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This phenomenon is truly disgusting...

I read an op-ed piece in yesterday's New York Times written by Charles Blow, (an African-American liberal) who I think really hits the head about this:
Don’t Mythologize Christopher Dorner

By CHARLES M. BLOW

I am no stranger to people’s glomming on to deadly criminals and celebrating them as heroes. Bonnie and Clyde were killed just south of the town where I grew up. There was that movie made about the couple, as well as a musical and more songs that I can count. And every year the town celebrates the duo and their killing with a festival and a shootout.

Last year, one Web site promoting the festival read: “Bring your family and friends and join us each year as we remember the historical ambush of the infamous outlaws Bonnie & Clyde, with fun festivities, great food, music and authentic re-enactments.”

But as romantic as people try to make the criminal couple and the circumstances of their death, they still can’t erase the wrong the duo did.

The same is true for Christopher Dorner — the former Los Angeles police officer and fugitive accused of killing several people, including one police officer and a sheriff’s deputy — who died this week in a cabin fire while on the run.

A rambling manifesto Dorner issued had many gripes, but chief among them were that racism, abuse of power and corruption ran rampant in the Los Angeles Police Department and that he had been fired for reporting it.

Now Dorner is being compared to movie heroes, has a song written about him and has a long list of fan pages on Facebook.

But make no mistake: Christopher Dorner is no hero. Here are some of the other things in Dorner’s manifesto.

He says of his planned attacks on other officers:

“The attacks will stop when the department states the truth about my innocence, PUBLICLY!!!”

He threatened that he would “use the element of surprise where you work, live, eat and sleep,” and discover the officers’ “residences, spouses workplaces, and children’s schools.”

He continued: “To those children of the officers who are eradicated, your parent was not the individual you thought they were.”

Through his own words, Dorner forfeits any aspiration to the title of hero.

Some commentators have tried valiantly to thread an impossibly small needle in separating what Dorner did, which all people of good conscience despise, from the serious issues he raises.

Marc Lamont Hill, a Columbia University professor, said on CNN:

“This has been an important public conversation that we’ve had about police brutality, about police corruption, about state violence. I mean there were even talks about making him the first domestic drone target. This is serious business here.”

Hill continued:

“I don’t think it’s been a waste of time at all. And as far as Dorner himself goes, he’s been like a real life superhero to many people. Now don’t get me wrong. What he did was awful, killing innocent people was bad, but when you read his manifesto, when you read the message that he left, he wasn’t entirely crazy. He had a plan and a mission here. And many people aren’t rooting for him to kill innocent people. They are rooting for somebody who was wronged to get a kind of revenge against the system. It’s almost like watching ‘Django Unchained’ in real life. It’s kind of exciting.”

I agree that the issues of police brutality and corruption should now and always be part of the conversation, particularly when discussing police departments with a bad history when it comes to minority and other vulnerable communities.

But I do not see a need to explain why people — particularly many on social media — are mythologizing Dorner. Rooting for a suspected killer who makes threats against even more innocent people and their families is just horrendous. It’s not exciting; it’s revolting.

Hill later apologized for his choice of words. I applaud him for doing that.

Still, too many people online have portrayed Dorner’s actions as righteous retribution. But nothing can change the fact that those actions are wrong.

Fighting for justice is noble. Spilling innocent blood is the ultimate act of cowardice. Dorner is not the right emblem for those wronged by the system.

This is not a game or a movie. This is about real people who lead real lives and their real families who dug real graves. Let’s give everyone involved time to mourn. Let’s have the respect to not honor the person believed to be responsible for the mourning.

According to KTLA in Los Angeles, Dorner’s mother issued a statement that read in part: “It is with great sadness and heavy hearts that we express our deepest sympathies and condolences to anyone that suffered losses or injuries resulting from Christopher’s actions.” They said it continued: “We do not condone Christopher’s actions.”

That’s the right sentiment: condolences for the victims and condemnation of Dorner’s actions. Period.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/16/opini ... mblow&_r=0
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I wonder if any studios in Hollywood have secured the rights to any story on the perp's life?

Martyr?

My (__*__)!

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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This story has gotten some really sick & twisted people to speak out and support Dorner. I went to facebook and found a "Christopher Dorner Appreciation Society" and the author last week wrote that he hoped Dorner would be able to "complete his mission". Others agreed.

I was so dumbfounded that I posted a couple responses before realizing that it was a complete waste of effort. Sort of like going to a mental institution where psychotic people are locked up and telling them to straighten up and act normal.

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Was Steve in there? :D
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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Hey Gob,

I just did a naughty thing. I went to a website that listed Steve as an electrician in Vermont and I gave a review. The review is currently "awaiting moderation".

This is what I wrote:

He is a decent electrician and an active conspiracy theorist. He explained to me how the Twin Towers were blown up by the CIA while he was fixing my light switch.

Whataya think? Did I cross the line of cyber decency?

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LOL!! :D
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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He would have deserved support if he hadn't gone the murderous psycho route toward self destruction.

Someone who who had the potential to cause some legal trouble for the LAPD is now just a charred husk.

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