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Lord Jim wrote:
It's going to be an epic based on the true story of the American War of Independence where the magnanimous Sir William Howe decides to leave America to it's own devices as he is sick and tired of listening to George Washington act like a whiny little bitch. It will tell how the British Army crushed the revolution in a matter of hours but decided that America really wasn't worth the effort. I'm thinking Hugh Laurie for the role of Howe and Britney Spears as Washington but I'm open to suggestions for actors to play the hero Benedict Arnold...
Sean, I think your treatment has potential, but it lacks imagination...

I'd cast Dame Edna as George Washington....

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Don't be silly Jim. This isn't a farce, it's an historical epic based on true events.

And wait till you read the first draft of my next movie where Maggie Thatcher (Gerard Butler) singlehandedly wins the Cold War while simultaneously managing to cover up for the incompetence and buffoonery of Ronald Reagan (Snooki). I think you'll be impressed...
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Affleck is quoted as saying to the Sunday Telegraph: "I struggled with this long and hard, because it casts Britain and New Zealand in a way that is not totally fair. But I was setting up a situation where you needed to get a sense that these six people had nowhere else to go. It does not mean to diminish anyone."
Oh? So when you showed the Brits turning away the Americans, that was not meant to diminsh anyone? What a twat.
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Liam Neeson left LA and moved back to New York because he "didn't want to live in a place where you couldn't smoke in a bar"...(true story)...

Little did he know...

The smoke Nazis are pitiless and relentless...

I understand you can't even smoke in a bar in Ireland these days....
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Liam, btw, has been an American citizen since 2009.
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Lord Jim wrote: I understand you can't even smoke in a bar in Ireland these days....
That is technically true Jim...

I do however know one publican in Ireland who, as soon as the smoking ban came into law, had a whip-round among his regulars to collect the 450 Euros needed to cover his fine. The money was kept in a jar behind the bar and smoking continued. When the publican was fined he handed over the jar and had another whip-round. I think you can see where this is going... ;)

I suspect he wasn't the only one with that idea.
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Smart lad...
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Don't be silly Jim. This isn't a farce, it's an historical epic based on true events.
Well of course...
And wait till you read the first draft of my next movie where Maggie Thatcher (Gerard Butler) singlehandedly wins the Cold War while simultaneously managing to cover up for the incompetence and buffoonery of Ronald Reagan (Snooki). I think you'll be impressed...
That's got potential....

I'm just spit balling here, but how about this:

Cornwallis "surrenders" to Washington...

And they admit they've had a gay relationship?

Huh? Huh? Does that work?


I think it does.... 8-)
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Brokeback Whitehouse?
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Guinevere wrote:History is written by the victors.

So some Brit said ...
Argo, Best Picture.
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So a well crafted and well executed work of fiction won the best picture Oscar. Isn't that usually the case?
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Just in case you didn't know. ;)
Mendez did not take the six anywhere at any time.
Mendez did not go into Iran alone.
He was not a drinker or separated with a small son.
He did not get the idea from his son.
His wife drove him to the airport.
The Brits and Kiwis did not turn them away, they helped the six in many ways.
The six did not stay at the Taylor residence, only two.
State did not push a bicycle solution.
His boss is fictional.
The Hollywood producer and the maid are fictional characters.
There was no table read.
There was no negotiating for a script.
There was no trip to a bazaar.
The airport exit went "smooth as silk".
The six were driven to the airport in a Canadian embassy van by Iranian employees.
A Canadian did the fake interrogation not Mendez.
The Argo portfolio never had to be put into play at any time.
Mendez forgot and left the Argo portfolio in his car when he went for the Iranian visa.
At the airport no official asked more than, "Is this you?" "Yes".
The Taylors bought the plane tickets.
Mendez overslept and was woken up by a New Zealander who drove Mendez to the airport.
Every single suspense cliche at the end was made-up e.g. the White House denying permission.
The Hollywood sign had already been rebuilt anew by 1979.
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Gob wrote:
Just watched the documentary on Escape from Iran. I just have to say how proud my brothers and myself are of what our Dad John Sheardown did for the American Hostages. He is the best Dad a daughter could ever have. I was up in Ottawa for the Canada awards and met a few of the hostages over the years. I have heard so many stories about the 3 months they all spent as house guests. Chris Wiggins played my Dad to a tee... Just wanted to say how much I enjoy seeing the movie when it comes on. I am very proud of my father he is a great man . Thankyou for allowing me to send this message. How proud I am of being Canadian .Sincerely Jacqueline Sheardown Hunter
I wonder how she feels about the new version?

A bit puzzled I'm sure,. Despite her dad having a major part in the opperation, and putting up the Americans in his home, he doesn't appear in the movie.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/201 ... movie.html
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Guinevere wrote: I remember the hostage crisis and the release very well, but I don't recall the events surrounding these six at all, so I also enjoyed learning about them.
I guess you're referring to Googling information then because the film didn't bother with too much larnin' of da troot as to what happened "69 days later". And yes, truth matters in a production touted to be dealing with truth. The nationality of actors in movies (or theatre) should not be of much importance. The nationality of the "real" people they claim to be portraying is.

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Just another reason I don't go to the movies unless they are totally fiction. And even then I don't go BECAUSE they are totally fiction.

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Here Mr Williams, 71, who later was High Commissioner to Zimbabwe and New Zealand, says this is a gross misrepresentation of the part he and other British representatives played in rescuing five members of the group from anti-Western mobs roaming the streets .  .  .

IT WAS on a cold evening in January that my wife Sue and I set off from our home in Kent to watch Argo at the Odeon in Earls Court, West London. We had arranged to meet several colleagues who had also served in Tehran and were, naturally, looking forward to seeing how the film would depict what had been a significant and dramatic time in our lives.

I had been told in advance that it denied the crucial role British diplomats played – at significant risk to their own lives – in saving five of the six people who escaped being captured by the revolutionary students, during the storming of the American Embassy. However, even forewarned I could not help but grimace when, in the first ten minutes of the movie, one of the characters describing the fate of the escapees says: ‘The six of them went out a back exit. Brits turned them away, Kiwis turned them away. The Canadians took them in.’

I thought to myself: ‘That’s wrong. They shouldn’t have said that.’ Not only had the film-makers airbrushed British involvement, but they claimed we had actually turned our back on our closest ally at a desperate time of need. It was gratuitous, insensitive and completely inaccurate. My wife and I both bristled. You might wonder why it matters. It’s just a film, after all. Well, it matters because not many people know the truth about what happened. Argo has been touted as a ‘true story’, but it has been given such a Hollywood spin that it is actually historically damaging to the reputation of the British diplomatic service.

That is why so many of us who were in Tehran at the time are dismayed. It’s not that we seek recognition or accolade. The truth is that we decided very early on to play down our role, so as not to cause more difficulties while working with the Iranians. But now I think it’s important that the proper story be put out, so that people know what really happened.


I had been working in Tehran for nearly two years, during the time the revolution had thrown the country into a state of turmoil. There had been mass public anti-Shah and anti-Western demonstrations on the streets, incidents when soldiers fired into the crowds and the British Embassy had been invaded by angry students and set alight in 1978, while we were inside – fortunately without casualties. We continued to get regular anonymous threats, for while the Iranians considered America to be enemy No 1, or the Great Satan, Britain was the Little Satan. So it was not entirely surprising when a mob stormed the American Embassy on November 4. We didn’t know then how long it would last. But we had no hesitation in helping when, at about 5pm the following day, I was told that several people had evaded capture and I should go and find them. I set off in my dusty orange Austin Maxi, which Sue and I had driven all the way from England in late 1977. It was pretty distinct and the only one in Iran; it also had a prominent GB sticker on the back.



Gordon Pirie, our information officer, followed in the embassy Land Rover. We had no clear instructions about how many people there were or exactly where they were, only the general vicinity. It was in the southeast of Tehran, a part of the city that I didn’t know. Gordon and I couldn’t find the flat where they were holed up. We were reluctant to make any enquiries of local people, as we didn’t know who might be hostile. After about 30 minutes I called our embassy from a public phone box. The voice on the other end was unfamiliar and speaking in Farsi. I gathered that the British compound had itself been overrun and occupied by young Iranians. I realised that we were not going to get any help there; that Gordon and I were on our own. So I hung up. By now the streets were relatively empty and it was growing dark.



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To all involved who helped our people, no matter what country, I thank you.
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Nice one O-n-W!!!
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