"Elementary"
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You're going to love this Strop....
Apparently there's a lot of "buzz" that Hugh Laurie may be in discussions about playing Moriarty in Elementary....
Personally I think that given the way the Holmes character has been constructed in the series, that would be a brilliant bit of casting if they can get him to take it....
Apparently there's a lot of "buzz" that Hugh Laurie may be in discussions about playing Moriarty in Elementary....
Personally I think that given the way the Holmes character has been constructed in the series, that would be a brilliant bit of casting if they can get him to take it....



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That might be one of the wooster ideas they've had.apparently there's a lot of "buzz" that Hugh Laurie may be in discussions about playing Moriarty in Elementary....
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Lord Jim wrote: Apparently there's a lot of "buzz" that Hugh Laurie may be in discussions about playing Moriarty in Elementary....
Why add more mediocrity to an already mediocre show? Oh, I suppose it makes sense....
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Ahh, so you watched an episode then?Why add more mediocrity to an already mediocre show?
Otherwise, how would you be in a position to make that judgement?
Surely you are not, (in rubato-like fashion) passing judgement on something you have never seen....




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Of course I am!
You expect me to WATCH this shite?My own objections are far wider - wrong city; country; procedural rather than canon-based stories; a Holmes who is very different from that depicted by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle; no Mrs Hudson or Mycroft... but a father. Oh and a Watson who's a paid companion. (Sorry, I can't continue or I shall get ill [from another forum]
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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I watched an episode and would give it a c+. It was the one about the hotel manager who is found murdered. Acting was okay, Holmes is fine, not sure about Watson from that one episode, but the plot had big unrealities in it. Are other episodes better?
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Long Run wrote: It was the one about the hotel manager who is found murdered.

“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Jim, did you continue watching this? Did it get better or worse?
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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I have continued to watch the show and have genuinely come to enjoy it. It's become one we make a point of watching every week.
I believe the show has steadily improved, particularly Lucy Liu's performance. (They've also dropped the "sober companion" bit ; she finished her contract on that and now Holmes has taken her on as a junior partner)
The show takes bits and pieces from the Holmes cannon, but it doesn't pretend that it's trying to re-make the Conan Doyle stories...A recent episode is a really good example:
In this episode there is a character named Charles Milverton who makes his living blackmailing numerous people....
But they don't try to re-make The Adventure of Charles Augustus Milverton; in this story, Milverton dies in the first couple of minutes of the show, and the whole mystery centers on the search for his "apprentice" who has taken over the black mailer role...
The story is well written and performed with a lot of interesting (and creepy) plot twists; it stands on it's own as a good episode.
The show has won over a lot of critics and skeptics, and become pretty successful commercially as well. It was originally signed for 13 episodes, that got expanded to 22, and now it's been booked for a second season...
Again, it's not the original Sherlock Holmes; it doesn't pretend to be. But it's certainly one of the better quality programs currently in production.
I'm curious though Strop, as to why you're suddenly asking about this....
Don't tell that you're actually considering breaking down and watching an episode?
I believe the show has steadily improved, particularly Lucy Liu's performance. (They've also dropped the "sober companion" bit ; she finished her contract on that and now Holmes has taken her on as a junior partner)
The show takes bits and pieces from the Holmes cannon, but it doesn't pretend that it's trying to re-make the Conan Doyle stories...A recent episode is a really good example:
In this episode there is a character named Charles Milverton who makes his living blackmailing numerous people....
But they don't try to re-make The Adventure of Charles Augustus Milverton; in this story, Milverton dies in the first couple of minutes of the show, and the whole mystery centers on the search for his "apprentice" who has taken over the black mailer role...
The story is well written and performed with a lot of interesting (and creepy) plot twists; it stands on it's own as a good episode.
The show has won over a lot of critics and skeptics, and become pretty successful commercially as well. It was originally signed for 13 episodes, that got expanded to 22, and now it's been booked for a second season...
Again, it's not the original Sherlock Holmes; it doesn't pretend to be. But it's certainly one of the better quality programs currently in production.
I'm curious though Strop, as to why you're suddenly asking about this....
Don't tell that you're actually considering breaking down and watching an episode?

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It's advertised during "Biggest Loser" here, I'm still trying to spot and Holmes connection in these trailers.
Thanks for the update Jim, but I'm sticking by my principles.
Thanks for the update Jim, but I'm sticking by my principles.

“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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You have principals?
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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"These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others..."
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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CP, Strop has made clear what his principles are on this....Crackpot wrote:You have principals?
Gob wrote:I refuse to watch Elementary on principle.
Lord Jim wrote:
And what "principle" would that be?
The "I'm too much a purest prig to give the show a watch even if people who approached the show prepared and expecting to dislike it didn't" principle?
Gob wrote:That's the one!




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And I stand by it!! I'm a man of rude principle.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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I think you don't want to watch an episode because you're afraid that if you did, you might actually not find it as offensive as you think you should.... 




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I'm not sure I would ever take TV show advice from a man who watches The Biggest Loser... 

Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
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I thought that was his own personal biopic
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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I may have started the original comments -- I watched a couple of episodes but never went back. Still haven't. Meanwhile I'm dying for the US availability of Sherlock!
“I ask no favor for my sex. All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks.” ~ Ruth Bader Ginsburg, paraphrasing Sarah Moore Grimké
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I've seen it on netflix
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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I watch it, it's OK but if I'm tired (comes on at 2100 here) I don't lose sleep over it.
Lucy Liu is a fox...
Lucy Liu is a fox...
Sometimes it seems as though one has to cross the line just to figger out where it is