Oil be damned

[Gob]

The European Commission is to ban the use of refillable bottles and dipping bowls of olive oil at restaurant tables from next year.



From 1 January 2014, restaurants may only serve olive oil in tamper-proof packaging, labelled to EU standards.

The Commission, the EU's executive branch, says the move will protect consumers and improve hygiene.

But critics have accused the EU of unwarranted meddling at a time of economic crisis.

A Pew Research Center poll released on 13 May showed positive views of the European Union are at or near their low point in most of the eight countries surveyed.

European Commission spokesman Oliver Bailly said the olive oil regulation would benefit consumers.

"We are just making clear that when you want to have olive oil of a certain quality in a restaurant, you get exactly the one you are paying for," he told a news briefing in Brussels.

But London restaurateur Sam Clark criticised the ban.

"This will affect us. It is about choice and freedom of choice. We buy our oil, which we have selected from a farm in Spain, to serve our customers," he told the Daily Telegraph.

Olive oil is a frequent target of food fraud, with cheaper oils being sold in its place to unwitting consumers.

The EU's largest producers of olive oil - Spain, Portugal, Greece and Italy - are among those hardest hit by the economic downturn.

[dales]

More EU tomfoolery..................

[rubato]

Olive oil (Mostly Oleic Acid) oxidizes and degrades rapidly. Putting it in refillable bottles on tables guarantees you'll get nasty old oil. I guess if no one cares ... .

yrs,
rubato

[Crackpot]

Putting it in separate non refillable containers garuntees more waste

[dales]

Only someone of less than mean intelligence is unable to see the wisdom in using refillable containers.

[Gob]

Olive oil (Mostly Oleic Acid) oxidizes and degrades rapidly. Putting it in refillable bottles on tables guarantees you'll get nasty old oil. I guess if no one cares ... .

That's a logical leap of quite immense stupidity. Putting it out in smaller measures, in bottle which would be refilled, when empty ensures you do not get old oil.

Anyone finding they had been given old oil, would not use that restaurant again.

More to the point, how many hours of bureaucratic money wasting was spent on this waste of time project, how much did it cost to come up with this nanny state stupidity?

[liberty]

How about this, if you don’t like the food or service at a restaurant don’t go back and tell your friends?

[Gob]

Sounds reasonable to me, how could the EU spend a small fortune discussing it and passing it into law?

[Joe Guy]

How about this, if you don’t like the food or service at a restaurant don’t go back and tell your friends?

So I shouldn't go back and tell my friends?

[Lord Jim]

That's a logical leap of quite immense stupidity.

But not at all unexpected...

[rubato]

I've been using Oleic acid as a chelating agent recently and this is what Sigma-Aldrich says about storage stability:

http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/etc/mediali ... 008pis.pdf

Storage/Stability
The product should be kept well closed and protected
from light. The neat liquid on exposure to air,
especially when impure, can cause oxidization and the
oleic acid can acquire a yellow
to brown color and a
rancid odor.


It is inherently unlikely that someone putting little bottles on the tables is refilling them frequently after careful cleaning. Otherwise the exposure to sunlight and oxygen will do its work. But those with low standards ought to be indulged them, if they insist.


yrs,
rubato

[Gob]

It is inherently unlikely that someone putting little bottles on the tables is refilling them frequently after careful cleaning. Otherwise the exposure to sunlight and oxygen will do its work. But those with low standards ought to be indulged them, if they insist.

[dales]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ LOL ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Gob]

Oh well, sanity has shone through..

The EU has dropped plans to ban restaurants from using refillable jugs and bowls of olive oil, after they drew consumer criticism and even ridicule.

The policy would have forced restaurants to only serve olive oil in tamper-proof packaging, labelled to EU standards, as of next year.

The move had been aimed at avoiding "consumers being tricked", Agriculture Commissioner Dacian Ciolos said.

But critics, including British PM David Cameron, accused the EU of meddling.

A Pew Research Center poll released earlier this month showed positive views of the European Union are at or near their low point in most of the eight countries surveyed.

'Too bizarre for words'

Mr Ciolos acknowledged on Thursday that the ban plan had failed to muster sufficient support.

"I have seen and heard strong views expressed by consumers," he told reporters.

"As a consequence I am withdrawing the proposition."

But he continued to defend the idea, saying restaurants were potentially misleading customers by serving cheap or old olive oil in containers presented as new.

He said he would convene producers, traders, restaurateurs and consumers "round the same table" in a bid "to find a better way".

Mr Cameron earlier said the proposal was a sign of unwarranted EU interference. The British leader has been facing growing pressure at home from eurosceptics who want Britain to leave the EU.

"This is exactly the sort of thing that the European Union shouldn't even be discussing," he said on Wednesday.

"It shouldn't even be on the table, to force a pun so to speak. So this shouldn't arise."

Meanwhile Dutch PM Mark Rutte called the ban "too bizarre for words".

"I think it is incomprehensible to come with this sort of proposal at a time like this," he said.

"It will add to the burden on the hospitality industry and inspectorate. It is also bad for the environment because you cannot refill the jar and so lots of glass is wasted."

Olive oil is a frequent target of food fraud, with cheaper oils being sold in its place to unwitting consumers.

The EU's largest producers of olive oil - Spain, Portugal, Greece and Italy - are among those hardest hit by the economic downturn

"Oh No, rubato agrees with us!! We must have done a massive fuck-up somewhere. Quick, change the plans..."

[Econoline]