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No charges expected in fatal shooting by Ariz. boy
The Associated PressAssociated Press
Posted: 06/09/2013 02:39:23 PM PDT
June 9, 2013 9:40 PM GMTUpdated: 06/09/2013 02:39:23 PM PDT


PRESCOTT VALLEY, Ariz.—Authorities aren't expected to seek charges in the death of an Arizona man who was accidentally shot by his 4-year-old son.
Justin Stanfield Thomas was fatally shot Friday after he and his son traveled from Phoenix to a friend's home 90 miles away in the northern Arizona community of Prescott Valley for a surprise visit.

Prescott Valley Police Brandon Bonney says the boy found the loaded gun in the home within minutes of arrival, asked a question about it and pulled the trigger.

Thomas later died at a hospital.

Bonney says the gun should have been locked away, but that Thomas' friend, whose identity hasn't been released, was caught off guard by the unannounced visit. [could you not hide the firearm somewhere, yet within easy reach?] SMDH!

No children lived in the house.

The child is now with his mother.
I live alone and have a loaded firearm within arm's reach by my bed in a secreted compartment. My grandson doesn't even know I own ANY firearms as we NEVER talk about it and he has NO interest at 7 years old. When he comes over the damned cat runs for cover and he is a perfectly behaved little boy, :mrgreen:

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I think it's the rule of Gob that I tell you that I've already posted this story here.

But I don't see anything wrong with the story being in two different threads.

In regards to your situation, I can only imagine where you hide your gun.

Did you happen to see Peter Earnest (former spy) on the Colbert Report report a couple days ago?

(reference at about 6:13 into the video)

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Not even close! :lol:

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Dales--When I was a kid, I had a couple of friends who had fathers with pistols who thought the kids didn't know where they were hidden, or that they were in the house, but they always did. And, as young kids (7-10) we were always interested in them. We took them out and unloaded/loaded, and played with them. We never dry fired them at each other, but did at the wall (lucky they were revolvers, I don't recall automatics in those days), reasoning at best they would just make a hole in the plaster (like we saw on Dragnet when the bullets were recovered). One even had it in a locked box, with the keys in a canister in the kitchen, and we knew where the gun and the keys were). Don't ever underestimate kids; I'd lock it up (maybe outside of the house, when he comes).

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I'm sure there must be some way someone can spin this story to show that it could have prevented if only there were even more guns in even more hands.

I can't for the life of me imagine exactly how so I'm eagerly awaiting the latest from the NRA... :loon
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Big RR wrote:Dales--When I was a kid, I had a couple of friends who had fathers with pistols who thought the kids didn't know where they were hidden, or that they were in the house, but they always did. And, as young kids (7-10) we were always interested in them. We took them out and unloaded/loaded, and played with them. We never dry fired them at each other, but did at the wall (lucky they were revolvers, I don't recall automatics in those days), reasoning at best they would just make a hole in the plaster (like we saw on Dragnet when the bullets were recovered). One even had it in a locked box, with the keys in a canister in the kitchen, and we knew where the gun and the keys were). Don't ever underestimate kids; I'd lock it up (maybe outside of the house, when he comes).
Indeed, as I live in a 1 bedroom apt, he never goes in my bdrm by himself. Secreted pistol is not in any place where anyone would look, anyway. As I mentioned b4.................he doesn't even know about it.

Funny, I kept guns around the house with my 2 daughters and never ran into any problems. Both went to the range at 12, fired a few rounds and forgot about it. :ok

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Problems? They don't automatically occur. My only point is not to assume that the kids don't know/aren't interested; my guess is most kids are interested. If you don't make a big secret of it, it does lose some of that forbidden fruit though; my kids always knew where the keys to the wine cellar were, but never touched the wines (without permission).

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Whatever <shrugs>.

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If you feel the need to keep a loaded weapon close at hand perhaps your neighborhood is not a good place for your grandchild and you should visit him elsewhere. :ok
I expect to go straight to hell...........at least I won't have to spend time making new friends.

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Sorry I'm poor and live in a shitty area, so sue me.

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It's time to initiate the Anti-Toddler Act of 2013.

Anyone who owns a toddler will be required to register it as a dangerous weapon and the owner shall be mandated to enrolled in toddler a training course and to pass a strict test in order to acquire a license.

Failure to register and/or acquire a license for your toddler will result in toddler confiscation and the two (or more) of you will face life in Gitmo.
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Commentary from this blog:
Yet at virtually every airport in the country we are subjected to a humiliating search of our person for fear we are a terrorist, cameras track our every move to make sure we pose no danger, and at sporting events and celebrations all over the country we see a huge police presence put in place to address a potential terrorist attack, while the REAL threats to our safety are wheeled about in strollers, tended to like royalty by sycophantic adults, all while waiting for an opportunity to reign death and destruction on an unsuspecting populace.

That description may seem a little over the top, but imagine how we would be reacting if the Chinese had murdered 11 Americans this year, or the Iranians, or the Saudi Nationals. We would have introduced profiling and never thought twice about it.

Yet the toddlers of America walk freely among us as if they were....harmless.
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Econoline wrote:"...

Yet the toddlers of America walk freely among us as if they were....harmless.[/size]
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Toddlers! toddlers! toddlers!

they are eeevil! Kill them before they killl you!


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rubato wrote:
Yet the toddlers of America walk freely among us as if they were....harmless.[/size]


Toddlers! toddlers! toddlers!

they are eeevil! Kill them before they killl you!


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Their shyt-filled diapers are bio-hazards!

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dales wrote:Sorry I'm poor and live in a shitty area, so sue me.
Well, dales, that lifeboat your in is by no means empty many of us are right there with you.
I expect to go straight to hell...........at least I won't have to spend time making new friends.

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Yeah, some 11 million and counting.

The gulf between the rich and poor grows wider as I type this missive.

Addendumb:

Antioch, no place for old men.........
Antioch: Man shot and killed in city's second homicide in less than seven hours
By Rick Hurd Contra Costa Timescontracostatimes.com
Posted: 06/12/2013 07:08:54 AM PDT
June 12, 2013 3:52 PM GMTUpdated: 06/12/2013 08:52:41 AM PDT


ANTIOCH -- A 21-year-old Antioch man was shot and killed Wednesday morning, police said, the city's second homicide in less than seven hours.

Police responded to reports of a shooting around 12:26 a.m. in the 1900 block of D Street and found Roberto Lopez on the ground with a gunshot wound, Antioch police Sgt. Tony Morefield said.

Officers and paramedics tried to save Lopez, but he was pronounced dead a short time later at a hospital. Police have no suspects or a motive in the shooting.

The homicide, the city of Antioch's fifth in 2013, came less than seven hours after its fourth. Police found 70-year-old Antioch resident Ronald Henry Rush dead inside his home in the 4400 block of Horseshoe Circle at 5:45 p.m. on Tuesday, Morefield said.

The circumstances of the Rush's death remain under investigation, but it is being treated as a homicide, according to police. A preliminary investigation by the Contra Costa Coroner's office revealed Rush suffered major head trauma.

Also Tuesday, 83-year-old Patrick Chang, of Antioch, died at John Muir Medical Center. Chang was brutally beaten May 18 in the parking lot of Orchard Supply Hardware on Lone Tree Way. A 15-year-old boy was arrested on suspicion of felony assault and robbery in connection with that beating. It was not known immediately if murder charges will be sought in connection with Chang's death.[why they wouldnt is beyond me.]


Check back for updates.

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