A Bit Of Idiocy Out Of NY -or CA Would Do The Same Thing

[dales]

NY man who says 4 kids vandalized home is charged



Updated 12:24 pm, Sunday, June 16, 2013

CLYDE, N.Y. (AP) — A man who says he caught four boys vandalizing his father-in-law's home has been charged with child endangerment after corralling them in a closet until police arrived.

Jesse Daniels was arraigned on four counts of endangering the welfare of a child after authorities say he interrupted the vandalism at the empty home in the Wayne County village of Clyde, midway between Rochester and Syracuse.

Daniels, 53, told WHAM-TV in Rochester that he heard pounding coming from the home next door the night of June 8. The house is empty while Daniels renovates it for his father-in-law.

Daniels said he went to investigate while his wife called 911. He said he found four boys, ages 8 and 10, inside with hammers. He took a hammer from one, then stuck the boys in a closet until officers arrived, he said.

"I was fortunate that they were in that room that had a closet, so I put them in the closet," he said. "I said, 'Listen, you guys are staying here until the police come, period.'"

Their parents said Daniels handled the boys roughly and threatened them with the hammer.

[then the parents are as stupid as there evil spawn and should be locked up as well, idiots!]

The damage to the home included holes in the walls, broken windows and graffiti derogatory to women spray-painted on walls. Daniels estimated that the damage to his father-in-law's property exceeds $40,000.

He said he believed the boys committed the vandalism in retaliation for Daniels' wife telling them earlier in the day to stay off the couple's property.

The boys have been charged with burglary and criminal mischief. Their cases are being handled in Wayne County Family Court.

Paul Bowler, the father of two of the boys, told the station that there are no excuses for his sons' actions.

"I understand they were in the wrong, but there are other ways to handle it," he said. "He (Daniels) knew who the kids were. It's not like they were strangers. And send the kids home and call the cops then. You don't sit there and torment them and tell them you're going to bash their skulls in with a hammer."

Bowler said Daniels grabbed the neck of one of his sons and left a mark. He said that his boys are traumatized and that Daniels should have faced more charges.

]oh please, spare me the bullsshit!]

Daniels counters that he was just trying to protect his family.

Daniels is due back in court later this month. It wasn't immediately clear if he has a lawyer.

Wayne County District Attorney Richard Healy told the station that the incident is still under investigation.

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[oldr_n_wsr]

If it was my kid, he would have gladly taken being put in a closet than face me.

[Big RR]

I don't know the exact statutes in NY, or how they apply to juveniles, but it would seem to me that this this might be characterized as a citizen's arrest--a serious crime committed in the presence of the arresting person, use of reasonable force, and prompt delivery of the arrestees to the authorities. My guess is he'll get off after the investigation, at least based on what's presented here.

Oldr--my kids as well.

[Jarlaxle]

He's lucky he wasn't charged with kidnapping. This seems like one of the problems in life that should be solved with a shotgun and a Bobcat.

[oldr_n_wsr]

I do have to say $40,000 is a lot of damage for three kids with hammers and spray paint.

[Jarlaxle]

Not really...priced contractors lately?! If they have to tear out and replace all the walls (and maybe flooring), it can ad up FAST, especially in pricey New York.

[oldr_n_wsr]

I would think the damage is pretty much mostly new sheetrock on the walls. The broken windows might add up. And it's upstate NY, not as expansive as here on LI or in the city.
ETA
The three room extension I put on my house was less than $40K, but that was 15 years ago, still, $40k seems high.

[Jarlaxle]

I also saw that they damaged cabinets and appliances.

[Crackpot]

It all depends on what was damaged and how it's damaged.

[oldr_n_wsr]

I also saw that they damaged cabinets and appliances.

Whatever the cost I hope they had insurance.