We shall see how far they get with this.Target employees sue over racist memo
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By john-boydchron-com-john-boyd@blog.timesunion.com (john.boyd@chron.com (John Boyd))
Three Hispanic former employees of Target are suing the national retailer over an in-house memo of “Multi-Cultural Tips” that they say perpetuated ethnic stereotypes while trying to prevent them.
Courthouse News reports, the lawsuit alleges discrimination based on Target’s “Organization Effectiveness, Employee and Labor Relations Multi-Cultural Tips,” which included the following notes on Hispanic warehouse employees:
•Food: not everyone eats tacos and burritos;
•Music: not everyone dances to salsa;
•Dress: not everyone wears a sombrero;
•Mexicans (lower education level, some may be undocumented);
•Cubans (Political refugees, legal status, higher education level); and
•They may say ‘OK, OK’ and pretend to understand, when they do not, just to save face.
Target told the Huffington Post the memo was used only at one distribution center in Yolo County, Calif, and was never part of any official training curricula, but apologized for its distribution nonetheless.
“The content of the document referenced is not representative of who Target is,” Target spokeswoman Molly Snyder told HuffPo. “We strive at all times to be a place where our team and guests feel welcome, valued and respected.”
However, the lawsuit alleges the tip sheet was just part of a broader discrimination by the company against Hispanic workers.
The former employees – Robert Gonzales, Bulmaro Fabian and Pedro Garcia-Ayala – allege that management consisted almost entirely of white workers. Gonzales also alleges that when he complained to upper management about frequent use of racial slurs by supervisors, he and his two co-plaintiffs were fired in retaliation.
Target Employees Sue Over Racist Memo
Target Employees Sue Over Racist Memo
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Re: Target Employees Sue Over Racist Memo
Somebody PLEASE provide a definition of "racism," by which this harmless communication can be seen as "racist."
Include a definition of "race" that has some connection with reality.
Please note which of the six bulleted items are factually incorrect. I don't see any.
Include a definition of "race" that has some connection with reality.
Please note which of the six bulleted items are factually incorrect. I don't see any.
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Well, stereotyping is a form of racism, and at least numbers 4 and 5 are blatant stereotyping. The first 3 repeat commonly held stereotypes in some areas of the country, and then purport to debunk them, but what this has to do with multiculturalism is pretty elusive so far as I can see(I would think, e.g., that people could see that not all their Hispanic coworkers wear sombreros). The last point is probably a good one, since it tells people to be certain they are understood.
But you tell me, what do you think the purpose of this "harmless communication" is? It reminds me of something put together to poke fun at Hispanics (except maybe for that last point); I see no valid purpose for a company to put it out.
But you tell me, what do you think the purpose of this "harmless communication" is? It reminds me of something put together to poke fun at Hispanics (except maybe for that last point); I see no valid purpose for a company to put it out.
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I'm surprised that the memo didn't note the late afternoon siesta. 
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Re: Target Employees Sue Over Racist Memo
I get the impression that these three:
Sombreros? Come on...I've been to many parties, bars and festival events where the people attending were predominantly Hispanic, and the only ones I have ever seen wearing sombreros have been in Mariachi Bands or other entertainment groups...
May have been somebody's attempt at de-bunking stereotypes with some gentle humor...•Food: not everyone eats tacos and burritos;
•Music: not everyone dances to salsa;
•Dress: not everyone wears a sombrero;
Sombreros? Come on...I've been to many parties, bars and festival events where the people attending were predominantly Hispanic, and the only ones I have ever seen wearing sombreros have been in Mariachi Bands or other entertainment groups...



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Don't forget the Wasps
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
Re: Target Employees Sue Over Racist Memo
Problem solved:Crackpot wrote:Don't forget the Wasps

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Re: Target Employees Sue Over Racist Memo
Personally I think that this memo says more about Target's non-Hispanic employees than their Hispanic employees...
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
Re: Target Employees Sue Over Racist Memo
Well.......
Here in California there are plenty of Hispanic workers at Target.
Here in California there are plenty of Hispanic workers at Target.
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My town has many Mexicans (Farmingville, NY) nd I have yet to see any of them wear a sombrero.•Dress: not everyone wears a sombrero;
Isn't Target supposed to ensure that their workers are legally able to work in the USA?•Mexicans (lower education level, some may be undocumented);
What happened to E-Verify?
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Maybe, but this statementLord Jim wrote:I get the impression that these three:
May have been somebody's attempt at de-bunking stereotypes with some gentle humor...•Food: not everyone eats tacos and burritos;
•Music: not everyone dances to salsa;
•Dress: not everyone wears a sombrero;
Sombreros? Come on...I've been to many parties, bars and festival events where the people attending were predominantly Hispanic, and the only ones I have ever seen wearing sombreros have been in Mariachi Bands or other entertainment groups...
makes me think not."The content of the document referenced is not representative of who Target is,”
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the memo is trying to humanize the Mexican employees, so that the other employees will treat them courteously and appropriately.
It is totally appropriate, maybe unnecessary, and utterly harmless.
The only people taking umbrage with this would be people who revel in opportunities to take umbrage. And a pox on all of them.
It is totally appropriate, maybe unnecessary, and utterly harmless.
The only people taking umbrage with this would be people who revel in opportunities to take umbrage. And a pox on all of them.
THE TIMES UNION?
This sounded somewhat "urban legend" to me, but these BigBox stores are known to be less than sensitive to workers disposition, emotional state, or just plain feelings in general. I'm fairly sure the management is trained in the fine art of not giving a shit about their "serfs and underlings." It's all merely chattel to them.
Ergo, I needed to check the "Huff" and -- surprise -- there it is:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/1 ... 70717.html
Cold, man, cold!
And dgs49... the memo should never have been written regardless what anyone should think or feel. It is wrong on so many levels.
Ergo, I needed to check the "Huff" and -- surprise -- there it is:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/1 ... 70717.html
Cold, man, cold!
And dgs49... the memo should never have been written regardless what anyone should think or feel. It is wrong on so many levels.

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dales wrote:Problem solved:Crackpot wrote:Don't forget the Wasps
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Another of those rare times when I find myself in concord with Dave. The "taking offense on behalf of others whether they want us to or not" industry is a bane of our times.dgs49 wrote:The only people taking umbrage with this would be people who revel in opportunities to take umbrage. And a pox on all of them.
The rather wonderful "women's surfing championship" advert which I posted here, has caused a storm in a tea cup elsewhere. "They are objectifying female surfers, it's sexist" wrote several males, conveniently forgetting that the advert is aimed at female surfers, not them, and features the world champion female surfer....
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You did catch the part where the employees who launched the suit are Hispanic, right?
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I think that's more a consequence of the "hey, let's sue, it's fun and profitable!" ethos over there, but point taken
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Gob--I'd agree with you if I could think of any reason why a memo like this would have been produced other than to perpetuate stereotypes. It's like writing not all asians drive badly, not all blacks are good at sports musically inclined; not all jews are stingy; not all native americans are drunks; etc. Just repeating stereotype in a memo (even when followed by negative) does nothing to get rid of it; at the very least it perpetuates it, at the worst it reinforces it. It accomplishes nothing positive. I just don't see it having any place in the workplace.
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I can see your point. I wonder if a Brit wrote it?Big RR wrote:Gob--I'd agree with you if I could think of any reason why a memo like this would have been produced other than to perpetuate stereotypes. It's like writing not all asians drive badly, not all blacks are good at sports musically inclined; not all jews are stingy; not all native americans are drunks; etc. Just repeating stereotype in a memo (even when followed by negative) does nothing to get rid of it; at the very least it perpetuates it, at the worst it reinforces it. It accomplishes nothing positive. I just don't see it having any place in the workplace.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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His post or the memo?
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.