I have been to this bank; I have met these people

[liberty]

I have been to this bank and I have met these people and I believe I might have even met the killer.

In a town few miles furthers to the south, I had a service call after I had finished I stopped at a convenience store for a snack. There was a young man behind the counter. I couldn’t tell if he was Arab or Iranian, but I could see that he was Middle Eastern in appearance. There was also three black guys in the store they appeared to be together; two of them were giving the young guy a hard time. They were ordering him around and calling him white man as if it was an insult. I talked to him little and learned that his family was from Yemen. I started to ask the black guys why they were giving him a hard time, but I had other calls to get too so I left. I have not seen a picture of the shooter so it might not be the same person, but I don’t see how anything good can come something like that.




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HOLBROOK MOHR 1 hour ago .ST. JOSEPH, La. (AP) — A man who believed a device had been implanted in his head shot two hostages, killing one, at a rural Louisiana bank before state police ended the hours-long standoff by shooting him dead.

The standoff began around 12:30 p.m. Tuesday when authorities said 20-year-old Fuaed (FOO-od) Abdo Ahmed took two women and a man captive at Tensas State Bank branch in St. Joseph, which sits near Louisiana's border with Mississippi.

Charla Ducote, spokeswoman for Rapides Regional Medical Center in Alexandria, La., said the wounded hostage, LaDean McDaniel, was in critical condition Wednesday morning. She could not provide further details.

The male hostage who was killed hasn't been identified.

During hostage negotiations, authorities were able to get Ahmed on the phone with a friend in Alaska, Louisiana State Police superintendent Col. Mike Edmonson said. That was crucial in convincing Ahmed to eventually release a female hostage.

.La. Police Kill Gunman Who Took Bank Hostages.Play video."Ahmed was mentally unstable and had written a letter "detailing exactly what he was going to do," Edmonson said.

"He was mad at people that he said were mean to him," he said. "He had voices in his head."

Edmonson said the man grew increasingly erratic as negotiations went on, sometimes hanging up on police. One of his demands to authorities was that they get the device out of his head, Edmonson said.

Eventually, Ahmed told negotiators he was going to kill the two remaining hostages. Edmonson said state police entered the building just before midnight Tuesday.

That's when Ahmed shot the two hostages and then police shot and killed him, Edmonson said. Edmonson said both hostages were shot in the upper body.

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Investigators work throughout the early morning hours Wednesday, Aug. 14, 2013 at the Tensas State B …The hostages were both shot with a handgun, but Edmonson said Ahmed was also armed with a rifle. He also had a duffel bag containing items he was going to use to torture the hostages.

"His intent was to inflict pain and kill these individuals," Edmunson said.

But Edmonson said there was no indication Ahmed had any history with the hostages, who were bank employees, and authorities did not know why he picked the bank. The bank sits across the street from a service station owned by Ahmed's family.

"These were good, God-fearing people," he said of the hostages.

Edmonson said Ahmed's parents were from Yemen, but he was a U.S. citizen and there was no indication that he had a political or religious motive.

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An investigator works throughout the early morning hours Wednesday, Aug. 14, 2013 at the Tensas Stat …On a Facebook page under Ahmed's name that was set up in the spring, Ahmed describes himself as a native of Fresno, Calif. On the page, he is seen in photos smiling and wearing a baseball cap backward, and with friends.

Ahmed discusses philosophy of life from the Tao Te Ching, a 6th century BC Chinese text, and is a fan of comedian Jerry Seinfield, rapper Eminem and Islam. He makes no specific references to political or religious extremism.

But recent posts show a darker side.

In a post on Sunday, he displays a cartoon strip that focuses on an apparent hostage situation. In it, a gunman points a pistol at a hostage. "I'll release the hostage if you give me a sandwich!" says the gunman in the strip.

Negotiators in the next frame then talk about the demand, with one asking "How close is the nearest deli?" ''Three blocks," the second man replies.

"Okay, you can kill the hostage," one negotiator calls back to the hostage-taker.

Ahmed's final post, made Tuesday just hours before the hostage standoff began, is of a photo of a man with a sword attacking a tank. Under the photo is a quote from the novel "If This Goes On," a 1940 science-fiction novel by Robert Heinlein that speculates on life in a futuristic American theocratic Christian society.

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[Joe Guy]

If you really think you saw these people you should call the authorities in that town.

[liberty]

If you really think you saw these people you should call the authorities in that town.

I don’t understand what could I contribute; a lot of people in St. Joseph have seen these people, they work at the bank. And I am sure that a lot people in Water Proof have seen the young man in the convenience store.

[MajGenl.Meade]

OK Liberty I'll bite

I may have missed it - but where in the article please does it say the young man who did the killin' was ever working in a convenience store?

if there is no such reference (and there may be and I missed it) then why do you assume that a man you describe as "behind the counter" who happens to be Yemeni is possibly the same person as a man in a bank who happens to have a middle Eastern sounding name? Of course it is POSSIBLE. But seems to me like a profile - one towel-head is the same as another?

Meade

And apologies if I missed some amazingly convincing connection. I was at first sure from reading your post and the article that you knew the three black men who were all shot in a bank after being forced into it at gunpoint by a shop-assistant - now I think your subject of "these people" does not actually refer to the immediate following reference to three black guys. (You had to say black eh?)

[liberty]

OK Liberty I'll bite

I may have missed it - but where in the article please does it say the young man who did the killin' was ever working in a convenience store?

if there is no such reference (and there may be and I missed it) then why do you assume that a man you describe as "behind the counter" who happens to be Yemeni is possibly the same person as a man in a bank who happens to have a middle Eastern sounding name? Of course it is POSSIBLE. But seems to me like a profile - one towel-head is the same as another?

Meade

And apologies if I missed some amazingly convincing connection. I was at first sure from reading your post and the article that you knew the three black men who were all shot in a bank after being forced into it at gunpoint by a shop-assistant - now I think your subject of "these people" does not actually refer to the immediate following reference to three black guys. (You had to say black eh?)

Well general I recon I did a poor job of expressing my self: The people in the bank were all white. The black men in Water Proof, as far as I know, would not have any connection to what happen in the bank. It could be that I am feeling a little guilty because I saw something wrong and said nothing. But the world is full of A holes and a convenience store next to a parish prison would be a good place to come in contact with them and I had to go.

But on the other hand how many young men of Yemeni back ground are there in the area. The area stretching south from Tallulah to St. Joseph and Water proof along the Mississippi River is very rural and overwhelmingly black in ethic make up, not a place where one would expect to meet Middle Eastern people. So what are the chances he is the same person?

[oldr_n_wsr]

not a place where one would expect to meet Middle Eastern people.

Most 7-11's and gas stations around here (Long Island( are owned/operated by people of middle eastern desent.

[liberty]

not a place where one would expect to meet Middle Eastern people.

Most 7-11's and gas stations around here (Long Island( are owned/operated by people of middle eastern desent.

Yes, but that is an urban area. I would bet that there are more people in one square mille of long island than there is in both St. Joseph and water Proof and all of Tensas parish put together.

[oldr_n_wsr]

Agreed
Technically we are considered suburbia, but judging by the traffic, it's looking more and more like an urban area every day.