2 September 2010 Last updated at 08:18 GMT
Stephen Hawking: God did not create Universe
There is no place for God in theories on the creation of the Universe, Professor Stephen Hawking has said.
He had previously argued belief in a creator was not incompatible with science but in a new book, he concludes the Big Bang was an inevitable consequence of the laws of physics.
The Grand Design, part serialised in the Times, says there is no need to invoke God to set the Universe going.
"Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something," he concluded.
In his new book, an extract of which appears in the Times, Britain's most famous physicist sets out to contest Sir Isaac Newton's belief that the universe must have been designed by God as it could not have sprung out of chaos.
Citing the 1992 discovery of a planet orbiting a star other than our Sun, he said: "That makes the coincidences of our planetary conditions - the single Sun, the lucky combination of Earth-Sun distance and solar mass - far less remarkable, and far less compelling as evidence that the Earth was carefully designed just to please us human beings."
He adds: "Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing.
"Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist.
"It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11161493
Hawking his theory
Hawking his theory
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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That was my LOL moment this morning.
.....and I thanked my God for giving me another day.
.....and I thanked my God for giving me another day.
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
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He adds: "Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing.
What, explain to me the logic of that one?
From WIki;
If it doesn't fit; it creates itself?Current status
Gravity has yet to be successfully included in a theory of everything. Simply trying to combine the graviton with the strong and electroweak interactions runs into fundamental difficulties (the resulting theory is not renormalizable). Theoretical physicists have not yet formulated a widely accepted, consistent theory that combines general relativity and quantum mechanics. The incompatibility of the two theories remains an outstanding problem in the field of physics. Some theoretical physicists currently believe that a quantum theory of general relativity may require frameworks other than field theory itself, such as string theory or loop quantum gravity. Some models in string theory that are promising by way of realizing our familiar Standard Model are the Perturbative heterotic string models, 11-dimensional M-theory, Singular geometries (e.g. orbifold and orientifold), D-branes and other branes, Flux compactification and warped geometry, Non-perturbative type IIB superstring solutions (F-theory).[1]
How's that any different from spontaneous creation?
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You're asking us to explain the theories of the greatest theoretical physicist of our age.
Nice to know you have such respect for us Lo
Nice to know you have such respect for us Lo
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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The answer is quite simple Loca...
"Coz I said so!"
If it works for religion surely it can work for science... otherwise religious people would be hypocrites wouldn't they?
"Coz I said so!"
If it works for religion surely it can work for science... otherwise religious people would be hypocrites wouldn't they?
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
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So, if gravity's effects can be felt through out the known universe but can not be explained
-does that make Gravity=God and God=Gravity?
-does that make Gravity=God and God=Gravity?
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No.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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because!
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Dogs have four legs. Cows have four legs. Dogs are cows.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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if you say so
(and you mock theists for silly beliefs)
(and you mock theists for silly beliefs)
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
Re: Hawking his theory
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Well, then what is gravity?
If we don't know what gravity is, then we are just relying on faith.
If we don't know what gravity is, then we are just relying on faith.
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What makes you think we do not know what gravity is?
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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I'm being honest- I don't know what gravity is; Hawkings doesn't know what gravity is.
Are you saying you know what gravity is? Enlighten us then, so that we may know thee better.
Are you saying you know what gravity is? Enlighten us then, so that we may know thee better.
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What makes you say that Hawking doesn't know what gravity is?
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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He said so, as per OP; he knows what it does, he doesn't know what it is.
Are you saying you also don't know then, as I ascribed? You're just going on faith?
Are you saying you also don't know then, as I ascribed? You're just going on faith?
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Where did he say that in the OP?
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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He adds: "Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing.
Further following the link to his book, he claims gravity not being able to fit into a 'unified theory' is proof of spontaneous creation. A leap of faith,'eh?
Are you saying you also don't know then, as I ascribed? You're just going on faith?
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What did you "ascribe"?
He doesn't claim that at all, and it has nothing to do with "faith".he claims gravity not being able to fit into a 'unified theory' is proof of spontaneous creation. A leap of faith,'eh?
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”