Why Did We Abandon Reconstruction?

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Rick
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Re: Why Did We Abandon Reconstruction?

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The road has long served as a de facto cultural dividing line between the predominantly poor black city and its wealthier, predominantly white northern suburbs. The perception of 8 Mile as the chief dividing line between racial groups and classes persists, in part because the suburban counties of Oakland and Macomb remain, on the whole, significantly whiter and more prosperous than the city of Detroit.[23] White residents are moving into Detroit; some are buying condos in the downtown area around Woodward Avenue, and other neighborhoods are becoming more ethnically diverse as well.[24]
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I knew about it when I was a kid it ain't changed much since

Prejudice ain't just a dumb southern redneck thang
Sometimes it seems as though one has to cross the line just to figger out where it is

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Re: Why Did We Abandon Reconstruction?

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Rick wrote:Prejudice ain't just a dumb southern redneck thang
:roll: Chicago is probably more prejudiced and segregated than any other northern city, but I don't think there were any lynchings here...
"Slavery does not explain all forms of current day racism," says Acharya. "But the data clearly demonstrates that the legacy of the plantation economy and its reliance on the forced labor of African Americans continues to exacerbate racial bias in the Deep South."
Again comparing the county-by-county data, the researchers found evidence of the relationship between racial violence and economics in the historical record of lynchings. Between 1882 and 1930, lynching rates were not uniform across the South, but instead were highest where cotton was king; a 10 percent increase in a county's slave population in 1860 was associated with a rise of 1.86 lynchings per 100,000 blacks. "For the average Southern county, this would represent a 20 percent increase in the rate of lynchings during this time period," says Blackwell.
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Re: Why Did We Abandon Reconstruction?

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Chicago is probably more prejudiced and segregated than any other northern city, but I don't think there were any lynchings here...
That's primarily because the racism manifested itself different ways in the north and south. But, as I recall, there have been lynchings in every American state, not just the former CSA.

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Rick wrote:
The road has long served as a de facto cultural dividing line between the predominantly poor black city and its wealthier, predominantly white northern suburbs. The perception of 8 Mile as the chief dividing line between racial groups and classes persists, in part because the suburban counties of Oakland and Macomb remain, on the whole, significantly whiter and more prosperous than the city of Detroit.[23] White residents are moving into Detroit; some are buying condos in the downtown area around Woodward Avenue, and other neighborhoods are becoming more ethnically diverse as well.[24]
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I knew about it when I was a kid it ain't changed much since

Prejudice ain't just a dumb southern redneck thang
Sure it has the places you glued to think as middle class are now trashy. Blight crossed that old line long ago. Heck Sterling Heights is starting to slide.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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That's right Eco give me the roll eyes, shoulda never got involved in this sanctimonious conversation anyway
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You're taking this way to seriously
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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Naw it was crap topic from it's inception and I allowed myself to post, my bad.

History is history it ain't always pretty, modern existence is molded by folk that failed to learn from it...
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Re: Why Did We Abandon Reconstruction?

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Sorry, Rick...I shouldn't have done that. A better and more apropos response would be to point out how the study I cited found that when you look at the data in detail, on a county-by-county basis, there is a great deal of variation in overt racism within what is usually lumped together as "The South"--more, in fact, than there is between "The North" and "The South". Pointing out that there was and is a lot of racial prejudice up north misses the entire point of the the study.
Despite the region's similarity in culture and its shared history of legalized slavery and Jim Crow laws, "the South is not monolithic," says Blackwell.

Their analysis shows that without slavery, the South today might look fairly similar politically to the North. The authors compared counties in the South in which slaves were rare—less than 3 percent of the population—with counties in the North that were matched by geography, farm value per capita, and total county population. The result? There is little difference in political views today among residents in the two regions.

"In political circles, the South's political conservatism is often credited to 'Southern exceptionalism,'" says Blackwell. "But the data shows that such modern-day political differences primarily [<--note: "primarily" NOT "exclusively"] rise from the historical presence of many slaves."
I thought the study was well-done and meaningful. (YMMV)
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