It's World Series time!

[Rick]

Perv

[Guinevere]

OK you got it out of me I hate Boston I want the Cards to win and I almost never root against the AL

And that's your perogative.

Although how someone could hate this team is beyond me. They are a bunch of hard-working non-superstars who far exceeded expectations by taking their job seriously (but not themselves) and doing it well. I admire what they have accomplished, no matter how the Series turns out.

[MajGenl.Meade]

Yeah, I've caught a few minutes here and there...

As a good American, it's the right thing to do....

Don't you mean "As a right American, it's the good thing to do"?

[Rick]

OK you got it out of me I hate Boston I want the Cards to win and I almost never root against the AL

And that's your perogative.

Although how someone could hate this team is beyond me. They are a bunch of hard-working non-superstars who far exceeded expectations by taking their job seriously (but not themselves) and doing it well. I admire what they have accomplished, no matter how the Series turns out.

Go ahead Guin spin it, they play for Boston they sold their souls that all I got to say on the matter

[Lord Jim]

Yeah, I've caught a few minutes here and there...

As a good American, it's the right thing to do....

Don't you mean "As a right American, it's the good thing to do"?

Whatever you say, Gen'l Arnold....

[Rick]

Yeah, I've caught a few minutes here and there...

As a good American, it's the right thing to do....

Don't you mean "As a right American, it's the good thing to do"?

Meade he may be a "right" American but you "left"

[MajGenl.Meade]

Two funny posts above!!

[Guinevere]

OK you got it out of me I hate Boston I want the Cards to win and I almost never root against the AL

And that's your perogative.

Although how someone could hate this team is beyond me. They are a bunch of hard-working non-superstars who far exceeded expectations by taking their job seriously (but not themselves) and doing it well. I admire what they have accomplished, no matter how the Series turns out.

Go ahead Guin spin it, they play for Boston they sold their souls that all I got to say on the matter

Sold their souls? Clearly you just hate Boston, for whatever irrational reason. You might have admitted that to start.

[Joe Guy]

[Lord Jim]

I was kind of glad I got see yesterday's game; a truly bizarre ending:

Cardinals win Game 3 on craziest walk-off ending in World Series history

Game 3 of the World Series between the Cardinals and Red Sox ended in a 5-4 Cardinals win thanks to one of the oddest walk-off plays in World Series history.

With runners on second and third with one out, Cardinals outfielder Jon Jay grounded a ball to Red Sox second baseman Dustin Pedroia, who was drawn in to try to prevent the runner from third from scoring the winning run.

Pedroia fired home in plenty of time to get Yadier Molina at home, but Allen Craig tried to advance from second to third on the throw home. Catcher Jarrod Saltalamacchia threw to third base to try to catch Craig, but overthrew the bag. Craig then tried to run home, but tripped over third baseman Will Middlebrooks.

Craig, who recently returned from a foot injury that sidelined him late in the season and early in the playoffs, stumbled home but appeared out at the plate by several steps. Only the umpires ruled that Middlebrooks interfered with Craig on his trip home, giving the Cardinals a walk-off win.

Red Sox manager John Farrell contested the call, but it appeared to be the correct one. Regardless of intent, Middlebrooks clearly got in Craig’s way as he tried to run home. It’s not the way the Cardinals drew it up, certainly, but the rules are the rules.

I don't know exactly how this rule works, but if it applies whether the interference was intentional or not, it looks to me like it was the right call.

I think the worst part of this for the Red Sox is psychological; when you lose a game in such a weird way it can mess with your head and affect your play.

OK you got it out of me I hate Boston I want the Cards to win and I almost never root against the AL

Gee Rick, the only folks I've ever known of before with a serious mad on for the Red Sox are Yankee fans...

Or is it the city of Boston that you have issues with?

[Rick]

Yankees are the only team I dislike more...irrational or not

[Econoline]

I'm not much of a baseball fan but I generally root for the AL in the World Series--unless the AL team happens to be the Yankees.

And hey, Sox are Sox, even if they're the wrong color...

[eddieq]

That was definitely obstruction all the way (offense interferes, defense obstructs). I'm a softball umpire, so I'm not up on the MLB mechanics, but the rule was applied correctly. It doesn't have to be intentional. Basically, when obstruction occurs, you protect a runner between the bases where he was obstructed and let it play out. Once the ball becomes dead (i.e., that runner is put out), you place the obstructed runner(s) accordingly. If the umpire judged that he'd have made it home had the obstruction not occurred, then he gets home. If there was no way in hell he'd have made it home, you put him back on third. That's the way we do it in ASA, USSSA and Pony fastpitch softball at least.

Seeing the play happen, I immediately stuck my left arm out (like Joyce did) signalling delayed dead ball for the obstruction.

It was a good call.

[MajGenl.Meade]

I'm not much of a baseball fan but I generally root for the AL in the World Series--unless the AL team happens to be the Yankees.

And hey, Sox are Sox, even if they're the wrong color...

Indeed - one exception, if it's Yankees vs Atlanta then I hope they both lose

Not that I care about baseball, mind.

[oldr_n_wsr]

Though I am an NL guy, I can't root for the Cardinals. In the 80's they were the nemesis of my Mets. The only thing good that came out of St Louis was Keith Hernandez.

[Guinevere]

I didn't want to comment on the obstruction call, because I didn't want anything I said to be taken as sour grapes. But ---- I understand the rule, and it appears the call was "correct." However, I think the rule is bad -- when you're playing ball, the objective is to keep the other team from scoring, within reason and within the rules. I don't think obstruction should lie against an fielder who is or was attempting to field the ball. It's not like the rule make the fielder stop in the act of fielding because he might obstruct the baserunner.

The issue of whether his legs bent or not is a red herring, because Joe Torre specifically said the fielder was supposed to get up and get out of the way of a runner. If I was lying flat on the ground, the first thing I'd do to move myself would be to bend my legs so I could move. Now, if I rolled over into the runner, that's a different call -- but penalizing someone for trying to make a clean play and then move, stinks.

It is really too bad that the umpires had to insert themselves into a game in such a way as to determine the final outcome. Yes, the Sox put themselves in that position to lose by playing badly, but the outcome was not predetermined until the call, since the runner was, on that same play play without the benefit of the obstruction call, out at the plate, and the inning would have ended with a tie. I'm just glad the Sox pulled themselves together last night, and that no matter what, there will be a game at Fenway on Wednesday.

[Rick]

Rule 2.00 (Obstruction) Comment: If a fielder is about to receive a thrown ball and if the ball is in flight directly toward and near enough to the fielder so he must occupy his position to receive the ball he may be considered “in the act of fielding a ball.” It is entirely up to the judgment of the umpire as to whether a fielder is in the act of fielding a ball. After a fielder has made an attempt to field a ball and missed, he can no longer be in the “act of fielding” the ball. For example: If an infielder dives at a ground ball and the ball passes him and he continues to lie on the ground and delays the progress of the runner, he very likely has obstructed the runner.

damned if you do damned if you don't

[Guinevere]

I'm not much of a baseball fan but I generally root for the AL in the World Series--unless the AL team happens to be the Yankees.

That's my typical default as well.

[Jarlaxle]

I'm a die-hard Sox fan & was a member of Red Sox Nation before anyone called it that.

[Rick]

I've been a Detroit fan since I was old enough to know what baseball was, I was still a fan in 2003.

Piss on yer Sox