There is not one a Sox fan I know who has said anything awful about The Tigers - in fact we've been quite respectfully.Rick wrote:I've been a Detroit fan since I was old enough to know what baseball was, I was still a fan in 2003.
Piss on yer Sox
Lose the sour grapes, dude. Not my fault that the Tigers had five leadfoots, one cripple, and one slacker on the field for the ALCS!Rick wrote:I've been a Detroit fan since I was old enough to know what baseball was, I was still a fan in 2003.
Piss on yer Sox
That's the thing about obstruction. Yes, they had him out on the play, BUT if he had not been obstructed, there is no way he gets out on that play. You can see it as the umpires "inserting themselves" into the game, but if they hadn't called it, you'd have Cards fans (rightfully) barking about a "non-call". Obstruction is a rule (as Rick quoted) and it was applied correctly. Sure, I may be jumping to the defense of my brothers in blue, but this is one case where they were 100% in their application of the rule and, in my opinion, the judgement required to apply the rule.Guinevere wrote:I didn't want to comment on the obstruction call, because I didn't want anything I said to be taken as sour grapes. But ---- I understand the rule, and it appears the call was "correct." However, I think the rule is bad -- when you're playing ball, the objective is to keep the other team from scoring, within reason and within the rules. I don't think obstruction should lie against an fielder who is or was attempting to field the ball. It's not like the rule make the fielder stop in the act of fielding because he might obstruct the baserunner.
The issue of whether his legs bent or not is a red herring, because Joe Torre specifically said the fielder was supposed to get up and get out of the way of a runner. If I was lying flat on the ground, the first thing I'd do to move myself would be to bend my legs so I could move. Now, if I rolled over into the runner, that's a different call -- but penalizing someone for trying to make a clean play and then move, stinks.
It is really too bad that the umpires had to insert themselves into a game in such a way as to determine the final outcome. Yes, the Sox put themselves in that position to lose by playing badly, but the outcome was not predetermined until the call, since the runner was, on that same play play without the benefit of the obstruction call, out at the plate, and the inning would have ended with a tie. I'm just glad the Sox pulled themselves together last night, and that no matter what, there will be a game at Fenway on Wednesday.
I'd expect that from someone who finds a Leonard Cohen concert a thrilling experience....Pakistan cricket - lot more action there.
I dunno...I never really thought it through, but I guess it goes something like "Well, if that team was good enough to beat our team and all our other rivals in the AL, I have to admit that they really must be pretty good (unlike those NL girly-men, who mostly beat only some sissy NL teams)....and if they win, every time WE beat THEM in the regular season next year we'll be beating the World Series champs, the best of the best."MajGenl.Meade wrote:And another thing - suppose I did support an AL team - Cleveland say - why on earth would I ever want another AL team to win the Series? That's silly - I want all other AL teams to lose every game. NL teams, who cares?
That logic only holds up to a point...Econoline wrote:I dunno...I never really thought it through, but I guess it goes something like "Well, if that team was good enough to beat our team and all our other rivals in the AL, I have to admit that they really must be pretty good (unlike those NL girly-men, who mostly beat only some sissy NL teams)....and if they win, every time WE beat THEM in the regular season next year we'll be beating the World Series champs, the best of the best."MajGenl.Meade wrote:And another thing - suppose I did support an AL team - Cleveland say - why on earth would I ever want another AL team to win the Series? That's silly - I want all other AL teams to lose every game. NL teams, who cares?
Or something....
Lord Jim wrote: "The NBA All Star basketball game was painfully slow, but that guy in the gold paint doing the human statue...wow...he had me on the edge of my seat..."
I'm of two minds on that....That's it General Arnold
Thank yew, thank yew. The Botox owe it all to me. Ha ha! I was only masquerading as a traitor in order to undermine the NL wannabe Cardinalosers.MajGenl.Meade wrote:Go Cards (that should doom them)
That's three World Championships in a DECADE, dude. First team in the 21st century to win two, and now three. Their 8th championship in the last century.Lord Jim wrote:Congratulations to the Boston Red Soxs...
They've won three championships in three centuries...
