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Mayor Rob Ford came out of his office Thursday afternoon and said he saw he no reason to resign, hours after Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair said investigators have recovered a digital video file that depicts Ford and is “consistent with what had been previously described in various media reports.”
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Ford said he could not comment on Blair’s announcement because the matter is before the courts.

“I think everybody has seen the allegations against me today. I wish I could come out and defend myself, unfortunately I can’t, ’cause it’s before the court and that’s all I can say right now,” Ford said. “I have no reason to resign, I’m going to go back and return my phone calls, gonna be out doing what the people elected me to do and that’s save taxpayers money and run a great government.”
Somehow I don't believe that:

"It's not me in the video."
"That's not crack in the video."
"I have never smoked crack in my life."

are things he is precluded from saying just because the matter is "before the court". Unless, of course, there is some reason he is not in a position to say any of those things.
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So even those press organs that have acted as the mayor's personal mouthpiece for the past three years are saying he should resign, yet there continues to be a deluded minority who believe he is being set up. The straw they are grasping at - that it is impossible for someone that fat to be a drug user.

Turn out the lights, the party's over....
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November 5, 2013
THE FAT MAN HAS SUNG
Oh, OK, Rob Ford Smoked All The Crack.

by Doktor Zoom



Toronto Mayor Rob Ford admitted today that he actually has smoked crack cocaine, as it turns out. Probably just slipped his mind. After a rather bizarre set-up — “You asked me a question back in May, and you can repeat that question” — Ford told reporters,

“Yes, I have smoked crack cocaine. I am an addict? No. Have I tried it? Probably in one of my drunken stupors, probably about a year ago.”

Ford added that he’s “made mistakes,” and that all he can do now is to “apologize and move on.” Sounds good to us! It’s so nice to have all that unpleasantness behind us, isn’t it?

Best new lie: “I wasn’t lying. You didn’t ask the correct questions.” You know. Like the question back in May that he asked the reporter to repeat today. It was the wrong question in May, but it’s the right question today. Also, he was too blitzed to remember anyone holding up a cell phone, so he wasn’t lying when he denied the existence of a video of him smoking crack. Ford says that he’d like the video to be released so that everyone can see what’s on it, if only to satisfy his own curiosity — “I want to see the state I was in.”

Toronto Star City Hall Reporter Daniel Dale tweets that the final question to Ford was “Are you drunk right now?” (check 2:15 — we heard “Are you on drugs right now?”… Discuss!)

As for what happens next, we’ll assume that it will follow the usual script, with a resignation, trip to rehab, and so on, but at this point, it’s not clear exactly when — Toronto’s City council lacks the power to force him to leave unless he’s convicted of a crime. Over the weekend, Ford was still insisting that he planned to run for reelection, which seems completely unlikely now, but then again, this is Rob Freakin’ Ford, and he might actually try campaigning from a jail cell, like a poutine- and crack-fueled Eugene V. Debs.

Earlier today, in another moment of weirdness that was quickly overshadowed by the Mayor’s admission, Ford’s brother Doug Ford, who is on the City Council, called for the resignation of Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair, claiming that Blair “is the most political police chief we’ve ever had” and “needs to step down immediately.” Who better to identify political bias against a political figure than his older brother? But wait, why was he biased against the Hon. Mayor Ford? Because he said he had seen the video, and was “disappointed.” Which is the Canadian version of putting him in a FEMA camp. We guess.

Stay tuned: We guarantee there will be more fuckery before this whole sad spectacle is over. The one thing that seems guaranteed is that Rob Ford has already overshot “graceful exit” territory by several light-years.

[Toronto Star / Toronto Star liveblog / CBCNews]
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This is hysterical...(the funniest part starts about four minutes and 30 seconds in...Canadians On Crack...)

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Kind of Orca-esque like Chris "I'm the biggest blowhard whale on the Eastern Seaboard" Christie.

But I guess its only Ok to point it out if they're not Republicans who have lost 1/10th of an enormously obese corpus.

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Perhaps the skooterman will enlighten us when he gets back about whether it is illegal to smoke crack "recreationally" in Toronto.

As for lying about smoking crack, we have a rather poignant precedent in the U.S. A former President - a hero to Progressives in this country - notoriously lied about various sexual liaisons during his "marriage" and was later outed by irrefutable evidence. Ultimately, his defense was, "Everyone lies about sex," and that "defense" has forevermore been accepted in our backward little realm.

Presumably, Mayor Ford could use the same "defense": Everyone lies about smoking crack cocaine.

The more important question is, how is he doing as mayor of Toronto? That is a huge and extremely important and influential city in Canada, and I'm sure there are tangible and quantifiable ways to measure his performance, in spite of his dalliances with alcohol and cocaine. Just because he is an idiot in his personal life, doesn't mean he is necessarily a bad mayor, eh?

Is it possible that his political opponents are siezing on his limited-scope idiocy to impugn his performance as mayor? To demand his resignation?

To paraphrase the late Mayor Koch, "How [is he] doing?"

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Good questions.

I heard somewhere on some news recently (NPR, probably) that in this case there is no possibility of impeachment or recall: until the next election there is literally no mechanism for removing him from office unless he is (a) convicted of a crime for which he could be incarcerated and (b) actually incarcerated.
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I'm pretty sure that the recreational use of crack is illegal in Toronto, Dave...

But the cops don't have anywhere near the kind of evidence they would need for a prosecution in this case...

When Marion Barry was prosecuted, he was caught red-handed with the drugs...

Nobody is going to get prosecuted for drug possession who isn't caught possessing drugs, (or at least having them in their car, or their home; certainly not just based on a months old video...an 18 year old street kid wouldn't get prosecuted on that kind of evidence)
while possessing crack cocaine is a criminal offense in Canada, lawyers have dismissed the notion that Ford’s announcement this week could serve as the foundation for a criminal charge. “It’s fanciful,” Julian Falconer, a Canadian lawyer, told the Globe and Mail. “Police prosecute based on actual possession.”
http://news.msn.com/world/how-do-you-bo ... king-mayor

However the Toronto City Council is trying to find some way to get him out, or at least force him to take a leave of absence...(I'm not sure what good a leave of absence would do in this case...Usually when an office holder takes a "leave of absence" he's admitted that he has a problem and he goes into rehab...Since Ford doesn't even think he has a problem, what would he do on a leave of absence? Probably go on another drunken binge and smoke more crack... :lol: )

The council is considering passing a law that would enable them to remove him, they're also looking stripping him of his basic powers so if he remained as mayor it would be without any real authority, and also apparently there's some procedure whereby the Provincial government can remove a mayor:
Rob Ford ally urges Ontario to remove mayor; minister says she'll hear what council has to say

One of Rob Ford’s council allies is asking Ontario’s government to take the drastic step of kicking the Toronto mayor out of office if he doesn’t take a leave of absence. And the province is keeping the door open to this possibility.

The government does not want to intervene in the maelstrom surrounding city hall, for fear of setting a bad precedent by throwing out a democratically elected mayor. But Municipal Affairs Minister Linda Jeffrey signalled that, if council asks the province to step in, she would examine its proposal and try to help the city through its troubles.

“I will evaluate anything they bring forward,” she said Thursday. “The councillor that’s considering this motion is considering what their mechanism is, and we’ll obviously work with them. We want to make sure the City of Toronto functions properly.”

That councillor, Denzil Minnan-Wong, submitted a motion for next week’s council meeting calling on Mr. Ford to take a leave of absence in the wake of his admission that he smoked crack cocaine and drinks heavily. On Thursday, he said he will amend the measure to petition the province to step in if Mr. Ford refuses to go.

“The city’s in troubled times. There’s a crisis right now and we need to take action to resolve this matter,” said Mr. Minnan-Wong, who sits on the mayor’s cabinet-like executive committee. “Quite frankly, extraordinary measures are needed in extraordinary times.”

Under current law, a mayor can only be removed for a criminal conviction or missing too many council meetings. But the provincial government has the power to re-write those laws.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/tor ... e15309318/

Part of what is complicating any effort to remove Ford is the fact that he remains fairly popular. Incredibly, his poll numbers actually went up, after the police chief announced that he had the video:
When Toronto police Chief Bill Blair confirmed to reporters on Thursday that he had seen the controversial video of Mayor Rob Ford, in which the mayor is alleged to be smoking crack cocaine, many observers thought it marked the unofficial end of Ford's political career.

Yet a number of political strategists and public relations specialists say that the beleaguered, scandal-prone mayor has a good chance of winning a second term in 2014.

"I think he could easily get re-elected," says Nelson Wiseman, a politics professor at the University of Toronto.

"The attitude of a lot of people is that, 'Look, I didn't elect this guy because he doesn't sleep around or he doesn't do crack cocaine. I elected him because I think there's a gravy train at City Hall, and that's what I care about."

In fact, Ford has been a politically divisive figure since he was first elected in the fall of 2010.

His tenure has been marked by vitriolic debate on city council as well as a seemingly unending series of personal controversies, from distracted driving to allegations of public drunkenness and police investigations into his associates.

But he's been under close public scrutiny for the last half year, after the Toronto Star and the U.S. gossip site Gawker.com reported in May that they had been shown a cellphone video that appeared to show the Toronto mayor smoking crack cocaine. The people with the video wanted to sell it for $200,000.

Ford initially denied the video even existed and the allegation that he was "a crack addict."

But on Oct. 31, Blair held a news conference following the court-ordered release of police information in the case of the mayor's friend and sometimes driver, Alexander (Sandro) Lisi.

At the news conference, Blair confirmed that police had the video in question and that its contents were "consistent with what has been described in the media."

Yet when Forum Research conducted a poll among 1,032 Torontonians that night, they found that the mayor's approval rating had actually risen by five percentage points — from 39 to 44 per cent.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/t ... -1.2355481

I admit to being completely bewildered by that...

I can see how maybe college kids would answer that they approve of him in a poll because they think the idea of having a crack smoking mayor is funny, but I really can't see how anyone else could. My understanding is that he is from the conservative end of the Canadian political spectrum, (well, except for the smoking crack thing) but in this country even a popular conservative mayor who got caught red handed on video smoking crack wouldn't have large numbers of conservatives rallying to his side...

They'd drop him like a bad habit...
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Here's your answer, Jim:
"I think he could easily get re-elected," says Nelson Wiseman, a politics professor at the University of Toronto.

"The attitude of a lot of people is that, 'Look, I didn't elect this guy because he doesn't sleep around or he doesn't do crack cocaine. I elected him because I think there's a gravy train at City Hall, and that's what I care about."
And he's a Wiseman, so I'm sure he must know what he's talking about.... :mrgreen:
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"The attitude of a lot of people is that, 'Look, I didn't elect this guy because he doesn't sleep around or he doesn't do crack cocaine. I elected him because I think there's a gravy train at City Hall, and that's what I care about."
We've become pretty tolerant about forgiving horndog politicians in this country, but usually when one of them cops to a drug or alcohol problem we expect them to at least try to get help for the problem before granting political absolution...(Here in San Francisco we had Gavin Newsome, who admitted to a booze problem, went into rehab, finished his term as mayor and went on to get elected Lt. Governor)

The attitude that Mr. Wiseman (I wonder if one of his ancestors made the trip to Bethlehem) refers to seems to indicate to me that the exasperation level with the political establishment in Toronto has reached (or even possibly exceeded) the level that it has in many quarters here in the US...

Basically what he's saying is that a lot of Toronto residents feel like, "I'm so fed up with politics as usual around here, that I even prefer a crack smoking drunken buffoon to that crowd."

I think in order to understand this, I'm going to have to do a little reading up on the political situation in Toronto prior to Ford's election and what the dynamics were that brought him to office...
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This is an excellent article explaining Ford's victory. (It was written shortly after he was elected in 2010).

It was brought about by a combination we've seen before....

He tapped into the mood of an electorate that was fed up with an out-of-touch and inept political establishment that seemed indifferent to the concerns of a large portion of the city's population. With the help of a couple of very sharp political operatives, he crafted a working class, conservative populist message that had broad appeal. He was further aided by multiple inept opposition candidates who were caught completely flatfooted by the popular mood.

Also, a lot was already publicly known about Ford's wildman personal behavior, so this was already baked into the cake with voters, which may also help explain why his support has remained fairly resilient. This also explains why he doesn't feel the need to resign; he's survived (and even thrived, and watched his popularity go up) in the face of so much personal scandal, that the way he sees it, this is just one more thing he can overcome.

How Rob Ford won Toronto


The inside story behind the most improbable mayoral victory in recent Canadian history

In the weeks after Richard Ciano and Nick Kouvalis joined the Ford For Mayor campaign last spring, the two market researchers and conservative political activists launched into a series of interviews with their new, colourful candidate for the Toronto mayoralty race, plumbing the depths of Rob Ford’s past. “Is there anything we need to know?” Ciano, who is 36, and Kouvalis, 35, asked Ford—repeatedly—once they’d dealt with the obvious: the homophobic slurs, drunken outbursts, the talk of “Orientals” working “like dogs.” Nope, said Ford. And that was the end of it.

Until August, that is, when Ford, Kouvalis and a 14-year-old campaign volunteer were zipping through the streets of downtown Toronto—and Ford got a call on his cellphone. Kouvalis had instructed Ford many, many times to stop answering his own phone. One day, he told him, he would be sorry. “He didn’t listen,” Kouvalis says. “That’s his brand. He answers the phone.” This time it was Jonathan Jenkins, of the Toronto Sun, asking Ford about a Florida marijuana charge dating back to 1999. Ford looked over at the 14-year-old and, on the question of whether Miami police had ever plucked a joint from his back pocket, apparently chose to prevaricate. “No, to answer your question,” he told Jenkins. “When I say no, I mean never. No question. Now I’m getting offended. No means no.”

Kouvalis, sensing something amiss, got Ford off the phone, fast, then had the driver pull over. Outside, away from the 14-year-old volunteer and blanketed in the traffic din of Toronto’s busy Yonge and King intersection, he asked Ford “what the hell was going on?” They made an odd couple. Kouvalis, with his olive complexion and carefully manicured charcoal-black goatee, once rivalled Ford for size but has lost 180 lb. since undergoing a surgical procedure to reduce his weight (now skinny, he continues to walk with the gait of a heavy man). His obvious capacity for menace is tempered by an equal capacity for charm and by his palpable intelligence. Ford is fair, ruddy-faced, still large and still as vulnerable to the self-inflicted gaffes that marked his decade on council.

Yet together, the pair managed to combine street smarts, discipline, technical and logistical savvy, and sheer luck to beat back the marshalled forces of God and George Smitherman, Ford’s only serious rival in the end. Ford took the Toronto mayoralty by a substantial margin—47 per cent to Smitherman’s 36. If Ford’s brother Doug Jr. bore the title “campaign manager,” it was Kouvalis who was the architect of what became perhaps the most improbable election victory in recent Canadian history.

It was Ford’s adoption of powerful buzz words like “stop the gravy train” and “respect the taxpayer,” which captured Toronto’s anger over wasteful spending at city hall and other annoyances, that helped win the day. His campaign pledges included a promise to rip up Toronto’s streetcar lanes and replace them with buses and subways; pesky marathons and charity runs that snarl Toronto traffic should go to parks and bike paths instead. He vowed to save the city $2.8 billion over four years by replacing only half the staff who retire (he also wants to slice city council in half, down to 22 councillors). By doing away with the city’s century-old fair-wage policy, which requires that private contractors are paid the same as union employees, he claimed he’d save $80 million a year. Ford also said he’d turf the land transfer and vehicle registration taxes. All this was designed to exploit the hangover felt by many Torontonians post-Mayor David Miller, whose inability to hold the unions to account in last year’s garbage strike tainted his seven-year run at city hall. Yet it wasn’t just anger that propelled Ford to victory—it was Kouvalis’s masterful campaign and his tough-as-nails control of the Fords. “No one’s ever stood up to these guys before,” Kouvalis told Maclean’s. “I did.”

Out on the street, Kouvalis listened as Ford delivered a salty account of a 1999 Valentine’s Day he spent with his now-wife Renata that went badly awry—“Go ahead, take me to jail,” he had told a Miami policeman. Kouvalis immediately instructed him to call Jenkins back at the Sun and cop to the marijuana charge (which, anyway, had been dismissed), then arranged for a press conference the next day, when Ford told reporters the whole story—the very story he’d neglected to tell his own handlers months earlier. “The reason I forgot about the marijuana charge . . . is because that same evening, I was charged with failing to give a breath sample,” he told reporters, following a tightly scripted confession. “I have never claimed to be perfect.”

Though initially surprised by the DUI revelation, Ciano and Kouvalis were unperturbed. “I said, ‘Just watch,’ ” recalls Ciano, a former national vice-president of the Conservative Party of Canada. “We’re going to go up after this.” Sure enough, Ford’s team of campaign outsiders—young, new to Toronto, arguably from the fringes of Canada’s political mainstream—watched as Ford’s popularity rose in the days following his DUI confession. Still, they were awestruck by the extent of the bump. “We didn’t think we’d go up 10 points,” Ciano says.


By mid-August, such polling was seen by Team Ford as yet more proof that Ford’s perceived missteps actually translated into better standings in opinion surveys. It was all according to plan—an approach to running him that Ciano dubbed the “wind in our sails” strategy. “We knew that the attacks on Rob, in terms of his character, past statements, even his physical appearance, were going to be vicious,” Ciano says. “We had to come up with a strategy early on to make that a sail our opponents could blow wind into—make every attack proof of the gravy train. It was, ‘You see? They’re trying to keep the gravy train going!’ ” His handlers delight in pointing out that the barbs directed at Ford—a Stephen Marche Globe and Mail column that used the word “fat” 17 times, say—merely generated more donations to his campaign. So did his Everyman lack of sophistication. “Our polling said, don’t put him in a $2,000 suit,” says Kouvalis.

More serious has been Ford’s ongoing feud with the Toronto Star, which his team believes has waged an anti-Ford campaign. In July, the daily—the largest paper in Canada according to circulation numbers—printed an article quoting two unnamed sources who described a confrontation between Ford, a long-time high school football coach, and a student player. A Toronto District School Board official confirmed there had been a dispute, but offered no further detail. Ford disputes the story. “They just hate me with a passion,” the mayor-elect told Maclean’s recently. “And they don’t pull any punches. You know. I’m taking legal action against them, unfortunately.” (Ford concedes, however, that “although I hate their politics, the Star covers the sports the best.”) He has not given an interview to the Star since it ran the story.

The first real test of the Ford team—and proof of the “wind in our sails” strategy—actually came a month prior to the DUI episode, when, during a meeting with campaign insiders, Kouvalis got a phone call alerting him to a new, potentially devastating situation. “I have to leave,” Kouvalis said, abruptly standing. “Rob’s done something he shouldn’t have.” The intelligence concerned a recording of a telephone conversation obtained by the Star that was said to feature Ford offering to buy Dieter Doneit-Henderson, an HIV-positive gay man he’d met weeks earlier in a bid to atone for a past anti-gay slur, the prescription painkiller OxyContin—commonly known as “hillbilly heroin.” No one on the Ford campaign had heard the recording, and the Star was sitting on the material. Kouvalis and others feared the Star might release it at the worst possible moment—a week before the election, say—for maximum damage. “I won’t deny it,” says spokeswoman Adrienne Batra, “we thought it was over.”

Kouvalis pulled aside Fraser Macdonald, the team’s 24-year-old deputy communications director—whose prior political experience consisted largely of his involvement in a model parliament club at Queen’s University—and told him to “do everything you can to get that tape.” With the kind of ingenuity that would become a hallmark of the Ford campaign, Macdonald responded by creating an online Twitter account under the pseudonym “QueensQuayKaren”—a Smitherman supporter who in her online profile describes herself as a “downtown Toronto gal who likes politics, my cat Mittens, and a good book.” Under that cover, Macdonald befriended Doneit-Henderson online; within two days, he’d convinced the man to provide him a copy of the recording. Its contents horrified the campaign, casting real doubt on the future of Ford’s bid. “Why don’t you go on the street and score it?” Ford can be heard asking Doneit-Henderson, who continues to press him for help getting the drug. “I’ll try buddy, I’ll try,” Ford says. “I don’t know this s–t, but I’ll f–king try to find it.”

What to do? Kouvalis, Batra and Macdonald favoured leaking the recording to a journalist selected according to the likelihood of a sympathetic hearing—a way of putting the campaign ahead of the story. “We sort of looked at the Tiger Woods vs. Maple Leaf Foods approach to crisis management,” says Macdonald, referring to the infidelities that led to the American golfer’s fall from grace, and Maple Leaf’s 2008 listeriosis outbreak. The latter had weathered its storm by clinging to openness and transparency; Woods emerged from hiding as damaged goods. For the Ford brain trust—Kouvalis, Batra and Macdonald—the choice was clear. Not so for Rob and Doug. “The Fords didn’t want to leak it. They wanted to see how it would play out,” says Kouvalis. “I leaked it on them.”

If the Fords were unhappy about Kouvalis’s characteristically unilateral management, they didn’t have time to act on it. (“Campaigns enhance democracy,” says Kouvalis, “but you don’t practise democracy on the campaign trail—you do what you’re told.”) Kouvalis handed Ford a speech that explained why he’d offered to help a man “score” illegal OxyContin, and Ford read it dutifully, noting that Doneit-Henderson “sounded disturbed” and that he felt threatened by the man’s proximity to his house and family. “He was beautiful,” Kouvalis says of Ford’s performance. The leak and Macdonald’s subterfuge ultimately saved Ford’s candidacy, and the incident only seemed to endear Ford to a segment of the electorate, one that appeared to grow with each passing gaffe.

Ciano, whose role in the campaign soon evolved into pollster of record, and Kouvalis, his partner at Windsor, Ont.-based market research firm Campaign Research, never anticipated how poorly their opponents would run their competing mayoralty bids. That lack of imagination—neither dreamed of such gormless rivals—almost lost them Ford’s bid when in late September a Nanos Research telephone poll gave Ford a 24-point lead over Smitherman, causing the campaign to wonder whether Ford had peaked too soon. “When we wrote the original campaign plan, we said, ‘Let’s hope it stays a four- or a five-way race and let’s surge at the end,’ ” says Ciano. “We didn’t expect to surge like we did at the end of August. But our opponents just were so hapless.”

Ford’s main competitors—left-leaning Joe Pantalone, right-of-centre Rocco Rossi and Smitherman—began stumbling early. “Everybody was talking about transportation in the beginning of this election,” says Batra. But the Ford campaign’s extensive internal polls showed wasteful spending was a bigger issue among voters. “Yet that seemed to be the last thing any of the other candidates were talking about,” says Ciano. The Ford campaign drew much of its effectiveness from a novel approach to the city of Toronto. “The conventional wisdom is conservatives don’t win in Toronto,” Ciano says. “One of the things I’ve been sort of frustrated by at the national, provincial and mainstream party level is this emphasis on target seats and focusing only on certain areas, leaving others aside. It’s a flawed approach.”

Getting at Toronto’s amorphous conservative vote meant, among other things, deploying technology never before seen in a Canadian municipal election to bypass traditional media outlets. Kouvalis and Ciano used telephone town halls to call some 40,000 homes simultaneously and invite respondents to a talk-radio-style event hosted by Ford. At a cost of $10,000 a pop, the technique exposed participants to Ford, created grassroots excitement, facilitated small donations and grew the campaign’s database. (Ford’s team didn’t adopt just any technology—a Rob Ford iPhone app, for example, was rejected because, in Ciano’s words: “Okay, like, I’m trying to think, who are the iPhone users who would actually support Rob Ford? I think it’s me and Fraser MacDonald.” The Ford team opted instead to concentrate on text messages.)

Kouvalis rehearsed his candidate hard for the 100-plus debates the candidates lumbered through over these last nine months. Quick to anger, Ford could lose his cool. Kouvalis practised his candidate, picking at his sensitivities—for example, Doug Ford Sr., his father, a former Mike Harris provincial Tory who died in 2006—over and over again like he was picking at a scab. Ford was all focus throughout the campaign as a result.

As Ford’s fortunes rose in the weeks before September, Smitherman’s plodding campaign stuttered. Internal polling conducted at the height of summer by his team suggested that, as Smitherman spokesman Stefan Baranski puts it, “People knew precisely nothing about what George Smitherman stood for.” Remarks another high-ranking Smitherman strategist: “We had a sense mid-July that this Ford campaign was completely unstoppable—a juggernaut. By mid-September it was evident Ford was going to win.” He adds: “There’s something liberating about that. George just turned it on.” That fire, combined with Rossi’s departure from the arena in mid-October, tightened up the race, according to public opinion polls, putting Smitherman nose to nose with Ford—a major achievement. (Still, Kouvalis’s internal polls had Ford consistently 10 points ahead, findings so at odds with the newspaper numbers that Doug Ford admitted he became suspicious of Kouvalis).

Yet there was nothing unorthodox about the Ford team’s campaign. “Lookit,” Kouvalis says, “this is already in the manuals—the thing is, people like to do things the old way.” All the Ford campaign sought to do initially was get the candidate to 30 per cent. If they could do that, Kouvalis figured they could use wedge issues—immigration and the fair-wage policy, as it turned out—to carve off chunks of support from their opponents.
In the end, Kouvalis had a secret weapon: he knew the Smitherman team had been operating off provincial Liberal databases—Dalton McGuinty’s lists, people the Ford team’s own intel said were going to vote Ford. On election day, Ford’s campaign concentrated on getting out its vote, knowing that the Smitherman team’s push would bring out a good number of Ford voters too. “They were pulling in our vote for us,” he says.

Much has been made in the Toronto press of Ford’s history at city hall—10 years and little evidence he has any talent for marshalling support among councillors to back his agenda. Some take comfort in this: Ford’s plans are so radical, they say, but there’s no need to worry he’ll ever cobble together a coalition to push them through council. Yet four years of stasis at city hall isn’t likely—Kouvalis has committed himself to staying on for the Ford transition. “We made a lot of promises,” he says. “I think I know how to get them done.” And such concern over Kouvalis’s proven effectiveness should extend up to McGuinty’s Queen’s Park. “I think the Liberals are going to want to see Rob happy,” he says. “They’re going to have to write a lot of cheques.”
http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/10/29/the-game-changer/
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Rob Ford promises a ‘rumble in the jungle’ as city council prepares to vote on motion to get province to remove him

The Rob Ford crack cocaine video sideshow will finally make it before city council Wednesday, with the beleaguered Toronto mayor promising a vote to ask the province to remove him from office will be a “rumble in the jungle.”

Ford, who reportedly hit the gym for three days straight and, for reasons unknown, broke into a jog at City Hall Tuesday, elbowing a cameraman out of the way, seemed in buoyed spirits on Tuesday. Hundreds of Torontonians lined up to receive a commemorative bobblehead of the mayor and he gladly chatted with them and posed for pictures for five hours.[maybe he's switched to meth...]

But despite the Rocky III-styled comeback that the mayor is projecting, there are more dark clouds ahead for his office. Ford’s former ally, Coun. Denzil Minnan-Wong, has put forward a motion to ask the province to step in and remove the mayor from office should he not step down. Meanwhile, the infamous “crack video” made its way to court, where a judge viewed it in relation to a drug case.

On top of that, there were at least two security incidents at city hall Tuesday that involved citizens screaming at the mayor to resign.

Councillor Doug Ford, one of the few allies his brother has left in city council, has accused Minnan-Wong of being opportunistic and of trying to advance his own mayoral aspirations.
He also said his brother doesn’t want to take any time off to deal with his personal issues.

“He doesn’t want to be stepping aside for two weeks,” Ford said, sounding subdued. “He has to keep busy.”

The councillor also said the mayor is on a diet.

Minnan-Wong refused to get into “name calling” after the councillor called him an opportunist.

“Councillor Ford should spend more time focusing on how to help his brother than attacking other members of council,” he told the National Post.

But Minnan-Wong did not deny he was thinking of a mayoral run for 2014.

“I haven’t made any final decision, it’s not for another two months until you can file your papers, but right now, tomorrow’s council meeting, taking a leadership position, taking a stand, doing the right thing, that’s what all of us on council should be concentrating on,” he said. “I’m not considering anything right now except for tomorrow’s council meeting and doing the right thing.”
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/11/12 ... emove-him/

I've been doing a fair bit of reading about Ford lately, and I have to say that if I were a Canadian ( :o ) who lived in Toronto, I probably would have voted for the guy. A lot of his agenda has been about basic commonsense conservative principles, (saving the citizens money, standing up to the public sector unions, blocking petty bureaucratic interference in people's lives, etc.)

And from what I've been reading, while he hasn't accomplished everything he ran on, he's accomplished a good deal, and has been more effective than a lot of the pundits and politicos up there thought he would.

And I'm sure these factors, along with the fact that a lot the bad boy stuff about him was already known when he was elected, have helped to keep his approval ratings up despite this embarrassing fiasco...

But I have to be believe that in all of Toronto, there must be somebody else who can represent the same sort of philosophy effectively as mayor who, well, doesn't smoke crack...

Maybe I'm just being overly fussy, but "doesn't smoke crack" really doesn't seem like an unreasonable minimum requirement for a mayor to me...
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Well Flint just elected a convicted murderer
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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“Yes, I have smoked crack cocaine. I am an addict? No. Have I tried it? Probably in one of my drunken stupors, probably about a year ago.”
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At the Council hearing yesterday oldr, in answer to a question about whether he didn't think he might have a problem, Ford said, "I am not an alcoholic or a drug addict. The reason I got drunk and did drugs was sheer stupidity."... :D :roll:
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Ford is the first person I've ever heard of that found a job that was all it was cracked up to be.

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Lord Jim wrote:
"The attitude of a lot of people is that, 'Look, I didn't elect this guy because he doesn't sleep around or he doesn't do crack cocaine. I elected him because I think there's a gravy train at City Hall, and that's what I care about."
We've become pretty tolerant about forgiving of horndog politicians in this country, but usually when one of them cops to a drug or alcohol problem we expect them to at least try to get help for the problem before granting political absolution...(Here in San Francisco we had Gavin Newsome, who admitted to a booze problem, went into rehab, finished his term as mayor and went on to get elected Lt. Governor)
And of course DC elected Marion Barry to the City Council in 2002, where he still sits . . . .
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Just when we thought this soap opera couldn't get any more sordid:
The mayor also addressed allegations in the documents that he drunkenly told former staffer Olivia Gondek that he wanted to perform oral sex on her.

"The last thing was Olivia Gondek... it says that I want to eat her pussy. I've never said that in my life to her. I would never do that," he said. "I'm happily married and I've got more than enough to eat at home."

Ford's quip left reporters visibly stunned.

Just a few hours later, Ford held a noon press conference to apologize for his remarks. His wife, Renata, made a rare public appearance at his side in front of a huge throng of reporters at City Hall.
His poor wife looked like she wanted to crawl into a hole and die.
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