a history clip to while away an hour or so ...

[rubato]

For those with an interest in history and a little time. James Baldwin vs WF Buckley.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFeoS41x ... r_embedded

This one works better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFeoS41xe7w


Back later for discussion.


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[Gob]

Don't rush.

[rubato]

Education would make your opinions more interesting.

Malice is small, mean, and nasty. And you have nothing else so far.


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[Andrew D]

A debate well worth watching, whatever opinions one has.

[Gob]

Education would make your opinions more interesting.

Why have you never learned how to embed youtube clips then?

Malice is small, mean, and nasty. And I have nothing else so far.

Fixed.

[rubato]

The clips were linked. For people less stupid, less mean, and less maggoty than you.



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[Gob]

In other words; you don't have clue how to do it.

Try educating yourself.,

[Lord Jim]

Try educating yourself.,

What good will it do him if he has a fool for a teacher?

ETA:

That having been said, the idea of those two in a debate does sound like it could be worthwhile viewing, so I have book marked it for when I have more time.

[rubato]

James Baldwin is very impressive. Buckley seemed confused and mentally disorganised by comparison. He made some mean little comments about Baldwin's accent (as if he of all people is in a position to call someone else's accent affected), just his way of being nasty, and then said that basically the problem for "the American Negro" was a lack of hard work and ambition. Garry Wills (mentioned elsewhere) was once a protege of Buckley but broke with him over Buckley's racism.

I heard Baldwin speak at UCSC in the middle 80s. I think he read some recent poems. In my memory it was not as memorable as this is.


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[rubato]

In other words; you don't have clue how to do it.

Try educating yourself.,

I'm sorry you're having a problem with it. I just click on the link and it plays just fine. Maybe someone can help you with it?


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[Econoline]

(as if he of all people is in a position to call someone else's accent affected)

Interesting tidbit: English was not William Buckley's first language; it was his third, after Spanish and then French.

[Andrew D]

I clicked the link under "This one works better," and it played perfectly well.

Strictly on debaters' points -- and I used to work for a University judging debates -- I would give the win, by a narrow margin, to Buckley.