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dales
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Buy stuff made in USA if possible.

Hard to do, but NOT impossible.

Avoid PRC at all costs.

Cheap goods no longer made in China can be made here.

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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Scooter wrote:You have one of the world's most educated workforces, and you want them to, what? Sit on a line making sneakers? Your economy could do that when you had an underclass of black and hispanic and female workers who were ready to work for pennies. You don't have that anymore, unless they are illegals. Time to move on.
Good point, Scooter.
GAH!

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Any healthy economy will be well diversified. We need manufacturing jobs just like we still need Agricultural jobs once we moved past the agrarian economic model.

Also lets not forget that manufacturing jobs from mind numbing repetitive tasks to the highly skilled and specialized technical jobs.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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Don’t anybody believe in robots any more.
I expected to be placed in an air force combat position such as security police, forward air control, pararescue or E.O.D. I would have liked dog handler. I had heard about the dog Nemo and was highly impressed. “SFB” is sad I didn’t end up in E.O.D.

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Too a point, Liberty.

But when 15 million Americans don't have a job, robotics are a hard sell.

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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They are the only way we can compete with third world wage slaves.
I expected to be placed in an air force combat position such as security police, forward air control, pararescue or E.O.D. I would have liked dog handler. I had heard about the dog Nemo and was highly impressed. “SFB” is sad I didn’t end up in E.O.D.

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It's that kind of thinking that got us into the mess we are today.

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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Gob wrote:back in 2008, worked for us...



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And I said at the time that it was the right thing to do.

Just as the US stimulus was the right thing to do albeit too small due to the party of "no"; the party of treason. Deliberately harming the country in order to regain power is treason, and it has been their continuous programme for 2 years now.

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dales wrote:It's that kind of thinking that got us into the mess we are today.
Not true Dales, all successful manufacturing industries have become more and more removed from manual labour and more intensively robot/mechanical production orientated. Any that doesn't falls prey to the escalating costs of human labour.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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People need jobs.

Not hand outs.

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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dales wrote:People need jobs.

Not hand outs.
True, but jobs which can be done by robitics, should be.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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To a point.

America needs to start someplace with bringing back a robust mfg base and that would not include robotics at this time.

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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So you want all of the high-paid jobs that go to people who design, build, install, and repair the robots used to make computer chips, memory chips, solar panels, flat panel displays, cars, machine tools &c to go to Germany, Japan, Korea, Taiwan and China so that you can create jobs here harvesting garlic and sewing t-shirts together at $6/hr?

Brilliant.

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Any new or reopening manfacturing plant needs people. Sure the robots do the heavy lifting but their still needs to be human oversite, human repair/instalation of those robots. It won't employ the tens of thousands who used to weld and screw in every part of a car, but it hasn't been done that way for years.

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rubato wrote:So you want all of the high-paid jobs that go to people who design, build, install, and repair the robots used to make computer chips, memory chips, solar panels, flat panel displays, cars, machine tools &c to go to Germany, Japan, Korea, Taiwan and China so that you can create jobs here harvesting garlic and sewing t-shirts together at $6/hr?

Brilliant.

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Your inferences are without merit.

IOW: I never said anything of the kind.

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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But that is exactly what you are proposing. Keeping all the grinding, soul-destroyng, dead-end low wage jobs that sustain intractable poverty here by using protectionism.

Let the jobs sewing t-shirts together go to the impoverished masses of Mexico, India and China for whom they represent an improvement in life and the ability to educate their children so that the next generations can have opportunities more like ours and we can live in a more peaceful world.

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Someone working on an assemby line might be "sould destroying" to you.

It's housing, food, and clothes to otherwise jobless person.

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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Addendumb:

Rube,

What about OUR impoverished masses?

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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Re: Hey, that's what we did...

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Well, if they're bitching for bread, let them eat cake. After all, it's their own damn faults they can't find good jobs.

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Especially, when many mfg. jobs have been outsourced to some third world "worker's paradise". :lol:

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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