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The Heros who stopped us from sliding into a police state.

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Revealed! Without their heroism we might well have continued the slide into a police state J Edgar Hoover and the CIA had put us on.

The Snowden's of their day:



http://www.npr.org/2014/01/07/260302289 ... oovers-fbi

We thought somebody needed to confront Hoover and document what many of us knew was happening.

- Bonnie Raines
"We called ourselves the Citizens Commission to Investigate the FBI," says John Raines. He was a professor of religion at Temple and Bonnie's husband.

The burglars were sure that Hoover — who ruled the bureau with an iron fist — had been carrying out illegal surveillance on Vietnam protesters and civil rights groups.

"And he was an icon — nobody in Washington was going to hold him accountable," John Raines says. "He could get away with doing whatever he wanted to do with his FBI, and it was his FBI, nobody else's."

The breaking and entering was supposed to get evidence of that spying so Congress and the public could no longer ignore it. Not long after the burglary, reporter Betty Medsger received an anonymous package at her desk at the Washington Post: secret documents. She published the story.

The Discovery of J. Edgar Hoover's Secret FBI

by

Hardcover, 596 pages

More on this book:

"The country learned for the first time that the FBI under J. Edgar Hoover was almost completely different from what the country thought it was," Medsger says.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/07/us/bu ... .html?_r=0


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I don't know if the end justifies the means.
Besides there is a little difference here than with Snowden.
Here you have average citizens, breaking and entering to steal "evidence".
In todays cloud info world, the breaking and entering would be hacking.

The Snowden case is a little different, it was part of his job to maintain secrecy on the material he came across and the mechanations of his job.

And I have made no judgement on Snowden or what he did.

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Heroes

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No, I think "heros" was appropriate...

The whole premise of this thread could well be summarized as a foot long baloney sandwich...

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Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?


Without brave people like these, Snowden, Daniel Ellsberg, we would not have a free society very long.


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LordJim, that looks like Ham to me. :mrgreen:

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I know, I couldn't find baloney...

Believe me, I looked...
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...and the nominees are:

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and the winner is. . . :?:
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Mmm gyros sound good, we haven't had those for a while...

I think I'll pick some up later...
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I had a gyroscope toy when I was a kid. I thought it was cool. I would balance it on a string and stuff. :mrgreen:

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Lord Jim wrote:I know, I couldn't find baloney... Believe me, I looked...

It's one of those spelling things, LJ

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A bologna sandwich
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Yuk yuk Maggie...

What I meant was I couldn't find a baloney hero/sub/hoagie type sandwich...

But you've inspired me to look again, (under "baloney" not "Bologna" which looks like the name of a New York Crime Family)

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When people cannot cope with reality they revert to bullshit. It distracts them from reality and allows them to feel that the real world no longer matters. For a short while.

Run along babies. Grown ups are taking care of business.





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“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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GAH!

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Hey, I thought of a way to turn this useless thread into an actually useful one... How about we make this thread the "Home For Random Videos"?

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“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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rubato wrote:When people cannot cope with reality they revert to bullshit. It distracts them from reality and allows them to feel that the real world no longer matters. For a short while.

Run along babies. Grown ups are taking care of business.





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Prescient, or what?

pre·scient
ˈpreSH(ē)ənt,ˈprē-/
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adjective: prescient

1.
having or showing knowledge of events before they take place.
"a prescient warning"
synonyms: prophetic, predictive, visionary; More

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I've seen the bright lights of Memphis,

and the Commodore Hotel....

And, underneath a street lamp, I met a Southern Belle
...

Well, she took me to the river, where she cast her spell... :?

And in that southern moonlight, she sang the song so well....


If you'll be my Dixie Chicken, I'll be your Tennessee Lamb...

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