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dales wrote:Maryland?

Named after Mary the mother of Jesus.
Um, no.

http://www.msa.md.gov/msa/mdmanual/01gl ... /name.html
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Of course, Sue, she was probably named Mary after the mother of Jesus Mary--most catholics (and being French she was most likely catholic) named Mary were. I think it has something to do with having one's first name be a bibilical or saint's name.

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dales wrote:I'm NOT a legal eagle but my gut feeling tells me this is wrong.

If I lived anywhere near this mall, I'd boycott and tell my friends to do the same.
Better to go to this guys shop, buy the T-Shirt and wear it around the mall. ;)

I'll be in Maryland this weekend visiting the daughter and taking in a Terps football game.
Don't know where this mall is in relation to the Univ of Maryland.

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I agree with Guinevere that any competent contractual analysis requires reading the entire contract. Which at least allegedly includes this bit:
The letter from the management states that the tenant's actions violate specific terms of the lease, including sections limited his store to the retail sale of prints, framing and directly related items ....
The tenant has a rather different spin on that provision:
He is allowed to sell art and art-related products, and he designed the T-shirt himself, he said.
"[T]he retail sale of prints, framing and directly related items" strikes me as quite different from "sell[ing] art and art-related products". And if the management is correct about the contractual language, it seems to me, off the cuff, that T-shirts are hardly "directly related" to "prints [and] framing". But without seeing the entire contract, none of us can say for sure.
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Thank you Andrew -- who knows what else lurks in that contract that isn't being discussed.

BigRR, Henrietta Maria was indeed a Catholic. Maryland was founded as a place where religious freedom was practiced, by Catholics, seeking to escape the puritan sentiment of Reformation England. There has always been a strong tradition of Catholic leadership in Maryland which remains today.

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Big RR wrote:Of course, Sue, she was probably named Mary after the mother of Jesus Mary--most catholics (and being French she was most likely catholic) named Mary were. I think it has something to do with having one's first name be a bibilical or saint's name.
Yes, very traditional Catholicism, although Latino Catholics are frowned on for naming their kids 'Jesus'. :shrug

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Guinevere wrote:Sue, you vacation? I thought you were the partner that worked, and I was the partner always on vacay. :nana
You do seem to take a lot of time off; but if you're being reasonably productive we'll let it slide. I'll bring it up at the next partners meeting.

In any event, Delmarva is a great nearby (for me) getaway.
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Big RR wrote:Of course, Sue, she was probably named Mary after the mother of Jesus Mary--most catholics (and being French she was most likely catholic) named Mary were. I think it has something to do with having one's first name be a bibilical or saint's name.

Here's the answer I found....
Queen Henrietta Maria (Queen Mary).
The charter that Lord Baltimore received in 1632 from King Charles I of England specified a name for the new colony. It was to be called Maryland to honor King Charles' wife Queen Henrietta Maria (Queen Mary).

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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oldr_n_wsr wrote:
dales wrote:I'm NOT a legal eagle but my gut feeling tells me this is wrong.

If I lived anywhere near this mall, I'd boycott and tell my friends to do the same.
Better to go to this guys shop, buy the T-Shirt and wear it around the mall. ;)

I'll be in Maryland this weekend visiting the daughter and taking in a Terps football game.
Don't know where this mall is in relation to the Univ of Maryland.

Will you pay for 1st class airfare from SFO to Baltimore? 8-)

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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Andrew D wrote:
"[T]he retail sale of prints, framing and directly related items" strikes me as quite different from "sell[ing] art and art-related products".
Does he print the T-shirt himself?
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The article says that he claims to have designed the thing himself, and it also says that he claims to be selling the same thing in framed prints. It does not say that he prints the T-shirts himself.

But what if he does? Suppose that I have a contract permitting me to sell "prints, framing and directly related items". Does that mean that if I print something or other on them, I can sell dirigibles? Or radio-controlled model airplanes? Or absolutely anything I want, provided that I put a print of some sort on it?

That does not strike me as a reasonable interpretation of the contractual provision as I understand it to be. (In what I have seen, neither side has quoted the relevant contractual language verbatim, and as I said before, competent contractual analysis requires reading the entire contract, not just bits (let alone paraphrased bits) of it.) How does it strike you?
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I he put the t-shirts in a frame and sold them that way, he might have it covered.

And dales, I'm driving down to Maryland, get to JFK airport and I'll pick you up as I pass by on the Belt Pkwy. Be there by 5am though. ;)

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