a) Loopy?
b) Hippies?
c) Cultists?
d) Jehovah's wobblers?
e) A combintaion of two or more of the above?
Police have launched a "major investigation" to find a five-year-old boy with a brain tumour, who was taken without consent from Southampton General Hospital by his parents.
Hampshire Constabulary said Ashya King needs constant medical care and there are "serious concerns" for his life.
It is believed his parents boarded a cross-Channel ferry from Portsmouth to Cherbourg at 16:00 BST on Thursday.
Police said he cannot communicate verbally and is immobile.
They said he is likely to be in a wheelchair or buggy and there are "serious concerns for his life" if he is not found today.
It is believed Ashya, who recently had surgery, is still in France with his parents and six siblings after arriving there at 20:00 local time last night.
He was removed from the hospital by his parents, 51-year-old Brett King and 45-year-old Naghemeh King, at 14:00 BST on Thursday.
Police are working with counterparts in France to activate their emergency child rescue alert procedures to find the family as soon as possible.
They were travelling in a grey coloured Hyundai I800 Style CRDI, registration KP60 HWK.
Det Supt Dick Pearson, of Hampshire Constabulary, said: "If we do not locate Ashya today there are serious concerns for his life.
"He is receiving constant medical care within the UK due to recent surgery and ongoing medical issues. Without this specialist 24 hour care, Ashya is at risk of additional health complications which place him at substantial risk.
"He needs to be taken to a medical facility for his urgent health requirements as soon as he is located."
Police have launched a social media appeal and are urging people to share it, particularly with friends or relatives in France and bordering countries.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
He'll blame his wife. Serves him right for marrying someone named "Nagme" - every time he spoke her name he got the same result.
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
It has also been confirmed the family are Jehovah's Witnesses, but there is no suggestion this is why he was taken.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
A five-year-old boy with a brain tumour whose parents removed him from hospital against medical consent has been found.
Ashya King was located in Spain and that his mother and father were being questioned by local police, Hampshire Police confirmed.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
Ashya King was located in Spain and that his mother and father were being questioned by local police
I bet they didn't expect that!
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
In the UK, the case has received widespread media attention, initially focused on concerns for Ashya’s immediate health.
Following assurances by his family in videos posted on YouTube that he is being cared for properly, the concern shifted to sympathy for the family’s plight and anger at their pursuit by the police.
Echoing remarks made on social media, the boy’s grandmother said the
“Of course, I am sure that every parent wants to do the best for their child,” his spokesman said.
Brett King, 51, wants his son to undergo proton beam therapy, an alternative to radiotherapy. He was not offered proton beam therapy by Britain’s state-run National Health Service.
In a video filmed shortly before his arrest, King said that because he kept raising concerns about his son’s treatment he was threatened with a court order that could have denied him and his wife access to their son in hospital.
“We couldn’t take it any more,” he said of his decision to remove his son from the hospital.
British police issued a European arrest warrant on the grounds of “child neglect” but it is not clear what, if anything, the Kings could be charged with on their return to Britain. — AFP
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
Gob wrote:a) Loopy?
b) Hippies?
c) Cultists?
d) Jehovah's wobblers?
e) A combintaion of two or more of the above?
So in fact it appears to be "None of the above," despite best efforts to gin up the hysteria. According to the report in Meade's post, the parents evidently wanted a superior treatment for their child, which is simply not available in Britain:
In 2013 the British government announced that £250 million had been budgeted to establish two centers for advanced radiotherapy, to open in 2018 at the Christie Hospital NHS Foundation Trust in Manchester and University College London Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. These would offer high-energy proton therapy, currently unavailable in the UK, as well as other types of advanced radiotherapy including intensity modulated radiotherapy (IMRT) and image guided radiotherapy (IGRT).[69] In 2014, only low-energy proton therapy was available in the UK, at the Clatterbridge Cancer Centre NHS Foundation Trust in Merseyside. But NHS England has paid to have suitable cases treated abroad, mostly in the US. Such cases have risen from 18 in 2008 to 122 in 2013, 99 of whom were children. The cost to the National Health Service averaged around £100,000 per case.[70]
Could it be that NHS is being cheap? Could it be that Southampton General Hospital is inadequately equipped or otherwise incompetent? Could it be that the parents are grasping at straws because their child's condition is hopeless? Could it be that they didn't want their terminally ill son to spend his last days enduring the torments of the hospital? Could it be that the tabloid press is, well, the tabloid press?
sue--from other accounts I have read, the hospital estimates his chance of 5 year survival (a common statistic in cancer) to be 80-85% with radiation therapy, but there is no mention of what his condition will be. While radiation therapy has improved, the biggest drawback is that it always kills a lot of healthy tissue as x or gamma rays are not easily focused; he might survive, but be in pretty poor shape mentally.
Proton beam radiation, as I understand it, is being looked at as an alternative to traditional radiation, as the protons (charged particles) are much more easily focused. It has been used with some success where damage to surrounding tissues and organs is a concern, but I am unsure whether it has been proven effective, or whether it would be useful in a case like this.
But that's the real problem with the way medicine is often practiced; rather than "waste" their time discussing the new therapies or alternative treatments, the oncologists will just ignore the concerns of the family and push on as they see best (and it takes a pretty united and strong family to stand up to them); I recall this when my father in law had brain cancer and the oncologist was pushing to start palliative radiation--when my wife and I requested additional explanation of exactly what they proposed to do they said they'd get back to us, then pressured my mother in law to starting it without ever doing so. Once it was started, there was no real benefit to stopping it (and luckily it resulted in a few complications which shortened his life considerably--he died within a month of the start of the therapy, so maybe it was for the best).
I think there's a bit of grasping at straws and a bit of anger in being ignored. Coupling that with a credible fear that the hospital might go to court to get an order to deny them access to their own son ("for his own god"), it appears these people did what they could to get some semblance of control over the situation.
Gob wrote:a) Loopy?
b) Hippies?
c) Cultists?
d) Jehovah's wobblers?
e) A combintaion of two or more of the above?
So in fact it appears to be "None of the above," despite best efforts to gin up the hysteria.
Ermmm Sue... They are Jehovah's wobblers...
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
Gob wrote:
Ermmm Sue... They are Jehovah's wobblers...
But it's evidently irrelevant to the story.
The relevance is the raised level of concern that their religions view on medical procedures, and their removal against advice of the kid.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
Meade, calling Meade - stat. Can you please decipher the sentence above?
“I ask no favor for my sex. All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks.” ~ Ruth Bader Ginsburg, paraphrasing Sarah Moore Grimké
gob, unfortunately advice is not always good. there was a case in MA recently that was just heartbreaking. two respected hospitals disagreed on the proper treatment and diagnosis of a teenaged girl. apparently one of the hospitals had more influence and the girl was removed from her parents control and treated in a manner that hastened her decline. the decision was reversed , and she subsequently improved with her parents chosen course of treatment.
Gob wrote:
Ermmm Sue... They are Jehovah's wobblers...
But it's evidently irrelevant to the story.
The relevance is the raised level of concern that their religions view on medical procedures, and their removal against advice of the kid.
This one - just to preserve it for posterity ....
“I ask no favor for my sex. All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks.” ~ Ruth Bader Ginsburg, paraphrasing Sarah Moore Grimké
