I'm surprised there's been no thread about this...

[wesw]

thanks rr but I am leery of links.

I don t have the computer skills to quickly rid myself of the nasty things that live in links

[Lord Jim]

From Big RR's link:

SURVIVAL OUTSIDE HOST: Filoviruses have been reported capable to survive for weeks in blood and can also survive on contaminated surfaces, particularly at low temperatures (4°C) Footnote 52 Footnote 61. One study could not recover any Ebolavirus from experimentally contaminated surfaces (plastic, metal or glass) at room temperature Footnote 61. In another study, Ebolavirus dried onto glass, polymeric silicone rubber, or painted aluminum alloy is able to survive in the dark for several hours under ambient conditions (between 20 and 250C and 30–40% relative humidity) (amount of virus reduced to 37% after 15.4 hours), but is less stable than some other viral hemorrhagic fevers (Lassa) Footnote 53. When dried in tissue culture media onto glass and stored at 4 °C, Zaire ebolavirus survived for over 50 days Footnote 61.

"Hours" is considerably worse than the HIV virus...

Also even though like HIV it is transmitted through bodily fluids, it remains virulent in those fluids outside the body a lot longer as well...(Which is a huge transmission problem, particularly in places where sanitation is poor because the nature of this disease causes those who have it to expel a lot of "bodily fluids"...)

Four degrees "C" is about 39 degrees in real temperature measurement; fortunately there aren't a whole lot of places in West Africa where it gets that cold for any length of time...

[Big RR]

True Jim, but note the next statement in the link:

A study on transmission of ebolavirus from fomites in an isolation ward concludes that the risk of transmission is low when recommended infection control guidelines for viral hemorrhagic fevers are followed Footnote 64. Infection control protocols included decontamination of floors with 0.5% bleach daily and decontamination of visibly contaminated surfaces with 0.05% bleach as necessary.

it's pretty nasty, but no more so than other similar viruses. I do think standard cold viruses can last on surfaces a lot longer.

[TPFKA@W]

If they don't figure out how it is being transmitted when people are in full protective gear I think you are going to see some healthcare workers refusing to care for the patients.

Just saying.

[BoSoxGal]

thanks rr but I am leery of links.

I don t have the computer skills to quickly rid myself of the nasty things that live in links

This is an excellent program, I've used it for years - highly recommended by Cnet.com: http://www.avast.com/en-us/index

You CAN pay to upgrade to expanded features ($29.99/yr.), but the standard program should protect you from viruses lurking on the interwebs.

[Lord Jim]

I use the free version of Avast on all of my computers; I would recommend it as well.

[liberty]

I have decided to rescind the offer of a PM, probably the less said about it the better.

Congratulations Lib, you have now guaranteed that more will be said about it...
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Not my problem Jim; I am only responsible to do the best that I can what others do is beyond my control.

[wesw]

in addition to Norton or instead of?

[BoSoxGal]

You shouldn't run two anti-virus programs, they will conflict with one another and reduce efficacy.

If you are paying for Norton, use it. I never liked the free versions that came with my computers and so never paid when they expired. It's pretty clunky and bothersome, in my opinion - but, it's also a big seller and if you have it, you should be protected to click on links - it should alarm you to any potential threat.

If you have free Norton, I'd dump it and get Avast instead.

I open TONS of links here and elsewhere (Facebook) and my laptop has never gotten sick.

eta: It's usually not links that get you in trouble, but downloads. NEVER download from a source you aren't certain can be trusted.

[wesw]

I just renewed the version that came with my puter. now I m afraid to dump it because I ve heard about all sorts of probs after uninstalling norton

[BoSoxGal]

If you paid for it, use it. When it expires, get Avast for free instead. I'm removed Norton and replaced with Avast and had no problems. If you need assistance with the removal process, I can explain it by PM when the time comes . . . if you remember.

[wesw]

lol

[BoSoxGal]

[wesw]

yeah, I got it. the sad part is that its true....

[Gob]

Norton is horrible bloatware.

[wesw]

I don t get why it came with Norton when it already had windows defender. that didn t give me much confidence in the windows defender

[Lord Jim]

I agree with Strop...

Removing that crap is one of the first things I always do when setting up a new computer. I don't even want it for free.

[rubato]

Has it occurred to anyone here what the most dangerous thing about Ebola could be? I won’t say here but PM if your curious and I will tell you .

Rush Limbaugh brain overheats from inventing stupid conspiracy theories and his head explodes coating everything in the room with a layer of fat?


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[rubato]

And what is the officially stupidest person in America telling his army of ditto-heads?

And yet, Ebola Stupidity Syndrome is threatening to overwhelm America. Rush Limbaugh is saying that Barack Obama wants America to get Ebola as revenge for slavery, and wackaloon radio lady (every wackaloon has a radio show now) Laurie Roth insists that Barack Obama is inviting, or at least allowing, members of ISIS who are infected with Ebola to infiltrate cities all over America so that they can infect everyone, giving Obama an excuse to declare martial law, take our guns, and give errebody a fake vaccine that will either kill them or track them by GPS or both. This makes Roth’s previous claim that Barack Obama was genetically engineered to aid in a Muslim takeover of America seem pretty darned reasonable by comparison.

Oh, and in addition to those two, there’s also some crazy shit out there, too.
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You know you live in interesting times when Rush Limbaugh has the third-stupidest conspiracy theory of any given day. Here it is. David Quammen, an American writer, said this on Anderson Cooper 360 last week:

You can’t isolate neighborhoods; you can’t isolate nations. It doesn’t work. And people talk about, “Well, we shouldn’t allow any flights from Liberia.” I mean, we in America, how dare we turn our backs on Liberia? Given the fact that this is a country that was founded in the 1820s, 1830s because of American slavery, we have a responsibility to stay connected with them and help them see this through.

By today, Limbaugh had converted Quammen’s statement that we have a moral responsibility to help Liberia into this weird interpretation: Liberals, exemplified by Quammen, believe that America “bears responsibility for these people in Africa getting this disease,” and that “the only reason they are there is because of American slavery,” and so America is culpable for the sufferings of Liberians facing Ebola. Dude, “moral duty” to help a nation is not the same as “America is to blame.” Oddly, Limbaugh has no such problems saying we owe a moral duty to Israel, but those folks are white.

In any case, this got Limbaugh to thinking about how liberals all blame slavery for Ebola (which we totally do, it’s so true), and so, obviously, liberals also “think we kind of deserve a little bit of this,” which is why Obama hasn’t banned travel from Africa:

“The danger we have now is that we elected people in positions of power and authority who think this or think like this in terms of this country being responsible, this country being to blame for things and it’s that kind of thinking that leads to opposition to shutting down airports from various countries,” Limbaugh explained, referring to the Obama administration’s handling of the crisis.

“It leads to opposition to keeping these people out of the country: ‘How dare we? We can’t turn our back on them! They exist because of us. We can’t turn them away!’” he said.

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Read more at http://wonkette.com/562588/obama-to-dec ... C1U1slf.99

[rubato]

The right-wing conspiracy machine is running at full speed:

Next on the Crazy Train, we have Laurie Roth and her ISIS Hypothesis. Roth explains at Matt Barber’s Home For People Who WND Can’t Take Seriously that the Obama administration is, obviously, busing in millions of illegal aliens for the purpose of spreading disease. This we all know. BUT THERE’S MORE! ISIS is already sending biological suicide bombs to American cities so they can all go off and spread Ebola everywhere!

Now, ISIS — that we are pretending to attack — is bringing in their version of suicide bombers throughout America. According to the breaking research of Whalid and Ted Shoebat, (regular guests of my national radio show), ISIS is planning to bring in people through out America infected with EBOLA. They are most likely already peppered throughout many cities now.

Forget suicide bombers with explosives attached to them. They have evolved to the next level now. ISIS might as well join the disease party, so by Christmas we can have a nice variety package of destruction and horror…lets see, EVD 68, EBOLA, TB and Scabies. Anyone want some bloody slush with your Christmas hors d’oeuvres?

And why is this being allowed / promoted? Simple! Barack Obama is an evil genius who, instead of wasting time building a secret base under an extinct volcano, is set to Destroy America from inside the White House. It’s really quite a tidy little plan!

And what is the purpose of all this disease, lack of protection and border security??? It appears to be potentially the “full meal deal” for Obama and his goals. 1) Establish over the next few years mindless, dependent and UN-American foreign voters and supporters for Obama and his goals. 2) Punish America for her achievements by riddling her with diseases and maiming her children. 3) Create a guise to declare martial law due to created outbreaks. Control speech, food, travel and health care. 4) Demand adults and children take some sort of mandated/mystery vaccination that kills off even more people.

My prediction is that a forced vaccination plan from Obama and his administration is on its way. This will not only allow someone put in control (so Obama can’t be blamed) to release something potentially fatal into our system, but also act as a tracker — the complete end of our privacy and freedom.

Exactly how a vaccine can simultaneously kill us and track us, or why Obama would want to track our corpses and invade their privacy, she doesn’t say — and in fact, the deadly tracker vaccine is just more proof that Obama is a completely insane megalomaniac. You just have to look at it coolly and rationally like Smart Person Dr. Laurie Roth has. Also, you don’t have to worry that Obama’s nefarious plan will work, because God will protect America. What a relief!

Read more at http://wonkette.com/562588/obama-to-dec ... C1U1slf.99

Right-wingnut radio has a lot to answer for.


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