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And he's been taking his Viagra...
Rockies, Upper Midwest Get Blast of Wintry Weather

A blast of wintry weather blew into parts of the Rockies and Upper Midwest on Monday, bringing a foot of snow in some areas, along with plunging temperatures. The cold weather is expected to eventually blanket the central U.S. from the Rockies to the Great Lakes region.

The frigid air was pushed in by a powerful storm that hit Alaska with hurricane-force winds over the weekend, and threatened to bury several states in snow and send temperatures as much as 40 degrees below average. A look at the storm and its effects:

BUT IT'S NOT EVEN WINTER YET

By Monday afternoon, areas of northwest Montana saw 14 inches of snow; parts of North Dakota saw as much as 8 inches; a community in central Minnesota got more than 16 inches; some Wisconsin communities got a foot or more of snow; and parts of Michigan's Upper Peninsula had 9 inches, with up to 2 feet expected by the time the storm ends.

Terri Sommerfeld, a clerk at Ace Hardware in Webster, Wisconsin, said the store usually sells six or seven snow blowers in a typical winter. That's how many it's sold in just two days.

"It hasn't been overly busy today, but the ones that are coming are buying snow blowers and shovels," she said.

Winter is still more than a month away, but it may not feel like it. The cold air coming with the snow will be around for a while, said Joe Calderone, a senior forecaster for the National Weather Service.

SNOW: FIREFIGHTER'S BEST FRIEND?

Snow was welcome in northern Wyoming, where snow and artic cold stopped a raging wildfire that had burned almost 2 square miles by Sunday evening.

"That's the best fire control you can have is Mother Nature," said John Garman, a firefighter with Johnson County.

Elsewhere, the weather wasn't so welcome. In Minnesota, the State Patrol said at least two people were killed in accidents on icy roads. Separately, a semitrailer carrying a load of turkeys to a processing plant slipped off Interstate 94 and overturned. In eastern Wisconsin, snow-covered roads were blamed for a school bus crash that sent the driver and an aide to a hospital, WBAY-TV reported.

The storm stirred anxiety for some farmers in Minnesota and South Dakota whose corn had not yet been harvested. The corn can withstand the cold, but deep snow may delay farmers getting it out of fields.

KEEP CALM AND SHOVEL ON

The snow got a mixed reception in Minneapolis, where the first inch tripled morning drive times. At one point, the weather turned to sleet, and tiny pellets stung uncovered faces and hands. Crews were plowing, shoveling or brushing off sidewalks, and snowplows did several loops around city streets.

Richard Anderson, who was decorating small trees outside Seven Steakhouse, had a slightly downcast take on the weather.

"As a professional holiday decorator you'd think I'd appreciate it. But I appreciate it when I'm all finished, and I'm finally sitting down and enjoying my own Christmas tree," he said. "It's wet, cold, sticks to you. It's freezing on your jacket as it's raining. What do you call it? Rain, sleet and snow. And it's bitter. It's really bitter. It's not very nice."
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I was talking to a friend of mine this morning who lives in Denver...

It's zero at the moment, but later today it's expected to warm up to a toasty 4 degrees...
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Last year it snowed for the first time on Nov 11. I thought it was just a freak thing, we have had them as early as Halloween. However it continued to snow several times a week all freaking winter. It was so demoralizing and exhausting. I am truly not looking forward to that again. :shock:

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No kidding. The money was nice...but I'm glad I don't plow anymore.
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Seven inches of snow east of Cleveland; rush-hour snow expected west Thursday afternoon


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We only got a dusting of snow here in Adventure Valley, Montana; right now it's 12 degrees, up from yesterday's 6 degrees at the same time. Saturday is projected to be high of 16 and low of 0, then we get back to warmer weather - high 20s Sunday and mid 30s by Tuesday.

Oh yay! :roll:

I honestly don't mind the winters here so much as back east, because the snow is dry and and the cold is dry, too. Several of my friends in Maine went without power for a few days after the recent snow/ice storm; I really don't miss that weather, especially as I get older - that cold gets into your bones!

One thing I am stressed about is my heating bills; I wish I had the money for a new furnace ASAP, as I hate thinking that I'm throwing away so much propane just to keep my house @ 54 in weather this cold. It's good that I'm not the type to expect the whole house to be toasty - I just run a space heater near where I'm sitting with the dogs, and when it's time for bed, we run upstairs and dive under the goose down. If this winter gets really cold, I'll just adopt another mutt - for those 3 dog nights, ya know! :D
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Ever considered a pellet stove?
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Yes, I want to get a pellet stove insert for my fireplace, but I can't afford that right now, either. The fireplace isn't functional (it's currently blocked off and insulated) so the chimney needs lining and capped along with the insert, so about $2500 depending on the stove insert I get.

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It snowed on November 2 or 3rd here, and has at least once more since. My swede skiied yesterday (in the Mountains). I did not....
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It is 21F with snow on the ground and the wind howling. I am thinking of packing up and heading south.

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Mid-40s and raining...I've heard plenty of worse ideas!
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Max 25
Mostly sunny.
Chance of any rain: 10%
Rainfall amount: 0 mm
Canberra area
Sunny.
Light winds becoming west to northwesterly 15 to 20 km/h in the evening then shifting easterly in the late evening.
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Max 25
That's pretty chilly...
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62 degrees here. Time to put on my winter tee shirt....

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That's 77 f in your strange measure Jim.
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bigskygal wrote:Yes, I want to get a pellet stove insert for my fireplace, but I can't afford that right now, either. The fireplace isn't functional (it's currently blocked off and insulated) so the chimney needs lining and capped along with the insert, so about $2500 depending on the stove insert I get.

Next year, assuming my practice goes well!
A friend has a pellet stove which vents straight out through the wall, no chimney. Remarkably efficient things. And back then the pellets cost almost nothing since the sawmills were just piling up the stuff they made them from.

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rubato wrote:A friend has a pellet stove which vents straight out through the wall, no chimney. Remarkably efficient things.
I've seen that sort of pellet stove too. Might be a lot cheaper and easier to install than the whole fireplace/chimney rehab.

ETA: 14°F (—10°C) here right now, headed down to a predicted low of 11°F (—11.7°C) tonight. (Brrrr. It feels a lot colder when you say it in Celsius!)
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Around 32F this morning. Ho hum

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bigskygal wrote:Yes, I want to get a pellet stove insert for my fireplace, but I can't afford that right now, either. The fireplace isn't functional (it's currently blocked off and insulated) so the chimney needs lining and capped along with the insert, so about $2500 depending on the stove insert I get.

Next year, assuming my practice goes well!
Whoa, hang on--those are not that efficient. I meant a pellet FURNACE, which ties right into the heating system and, aside from filling the feeder, is hands-off. I now need to ask you some questions about your house & heating system:

Do you have a full cellar? If so, does said cellar have about a 5' square area free, ideally near the furnace?
Forced-air or hot water?
Regular chimney or exhaust vent?
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What has the smaller carbon footprint? (assuming brand new, top of the line models)
A pellet furnace
An oil burner
A gas furnace

I am asking as I am too lazy to look them up.

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