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WEDNESDAY, NOV 26, 2014 10:25 AM MST
“A hallucination of your worst fears”: Legal scholar Patricia Williams on what Darren Wilson’s testimony reveals about racism in America

"That’s precisely the danger of prejudice and stereotypes. That you don’t see the human being in front of you"

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St. Louis County Prosecutor's Office photo shows Ferguson, Missouri police officer Darren Wilson photo taken shortly after August 9, 2014 shooting of Michael Brown, presented to the grand jury and made available on November 24, 2014. (Credit: Reuters)
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[Beaten to the point he feared for his life - barely a mark on him.]
After hearing the news that a grand jury had declined to indict Darren Wilson for fatally shooting Michael Brown, I picked up my copy of Patricia Williams’ “The Alchemy of Race and Rights” to revisit her writing on the death of Eleanor Bumpurs. In particular, I wanted to read a passage in which Williams explores fear, the racialized perception of threat and the use of deadly force in the 1984 case.

Bumpurs was a 66 year old, badly arthritic African-American woman who was shot and killed by Stephen Sullivan, a white New York City police officer. After being confronted in her home by several officers there to evict her, Bumpurs brandished a knife. She was shot twice. Like Wilson, Sullivan faced no charges. (At the time, one of Bumpurs’ seven children responded to the non-indictment by observing, “The judge and the Police Department are saying, ‘If you’re poor, if you’re black, then there’s no justice.’”)

And this is what Williams wrote in 1991:

I have tried to ask myself a progression of questions about the Bumpurs death. [...] What I found more difficult to focus on was the “why,” the animus that inspired such fear and impatient contempt in a police officer that the presence of six other well-armed men could not allay his need to kill a sick old lady fighting off hallucinations with a knife. It seemed to me a fear embellished by something beyond Mrs. Bumpurs herself; something about her that filled the void between her physical, limited presence and the “immediate threat and endangerment to life” in the beholding eyes of the officer.

Why was the sight of a knife-wielding woman so fearful to a shotgun-wielding policeman that he had to blow her to pieces as the only recourse, the only way to preserve his physical integrity? What offensive spirit of his past experience raised her presence to the level of a physical menace beyond what it in fact was; what spirit of prejudgment, of prejudice, provided him such a powerful hallucinogen?

However slippery these questions may be on a legal or conscious level, unresponsiveness does not make them go away. Failure to resolve the dilemma of racial violence merely displaces its power. The legacy of killing finds its way into cultural expectations, archetypes, and isms. The echoes of both dead and deadly others acquire an hallucinatory quality; their voices speak of an unwanted past, but also reflect images of the future.

These questions, all these years later, have not gone away. And in the grand jury’s decision and the public’s response to the death of Eleanor Bumpurs, we saw images of the future many times over. I reached out to Williams, a legal scholar and professor of law at Columbia University, to discuss the grand jury’s decision in the Wilson case, Wilson’s testimony, prosecutor Robert McCulloch’s strategy and race and the justice system in 2014.

Our conversation has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity.

What are your thoughts on the outcome of the grand jury hearing?

It’s really disappointing. This is a grand jury for an indictment. It’s not a conviction. The standard for a grand jury is very, very low. There is a famous cliché in the law that you could indict a ham sandwich because the standard is so low.

And this wasn’t even the ultimate trial, this was just to determine that there was a reasonable suspicion that something had happened that could be prosecuted. In that sense, the prosecutor [Robert McCulloch] did a completely horrible job. That’s why, at the outset, there was concern about this particular prosecutor.

What do you make of McCulloch’s strategy in this case?

As in many of these trials, like the Trayvon Martin case and Jordan Davis, the public seems to feel that the victim is the person who needs to be prosecuted. And reading the transcript [in the Wilson case], it was so blatant.

One of the functions of a prosecutor is to prioritize, to make a case that there is reasonable cause. McCulloch didn’t do that. He chose to present a mess with no attempt to persuade. That’s what prosecutors are supposed to do, and he didn’t do that. He emptied several bales of hay and told the jury to go sort through it. Relevance and focus is absolutely what you need to create a case. He didn’t try to create a case.

If he had a strategy, it seemed to be more about acting like a defense attorney.

And because prosecutors so often use police as their witnesses, there is a tendency in many prosecutors — and you saw this really dominate here — to feel that the police are on the same side as the prosecution. While in fact, the prosecutor’s duty is to the people. That’s why the courts are styled as “the people” versus a particular defendant. It is not “the police” versus a particular defendant.

McCulloch’s duty is to the public space, to all the people of the state. Not the police. That distinction, of the prosecutor representing the public and not police interests, seems to have been erased. And that conflation seems to have driven this grand jury presentation.

You mention the legal cliché of being able to indict a ham sandwich, but that changes when we talk about police officers. It’s rare for an officer to face charges.

Police officers are designed to protect public order. They have a responsibility to use the least violent option in any confrontation, and they are supposedly trained to do that. While their job is certainly stressful, you can’t have people with PTSD running around supposedly protecting the public order.

When you read the transcripts, it sounds like Wilson’s defense was, Well I was so panicked and terrified. He certainly capitalized on this idea of “Big Mike.” But remember, Darren Wilson and Mike Brown are the same size. You wouldn’t have guessed that based on the transcript.

This panic about the hulking predator… if that is your feeling, then you shouldn’t be a police officer. It’s not a description of an accountable state actor. And the notion that police are state actors is lost here.

You see this in this general sense that [many people believe] the police have to do whatever they can to protect themselves. But that is not their mission. That’s a complete misstatement of their duty. Public safety is their mission, not their own. It is almost an old fashioned sacrificial mission that is entirely lost in this sense of, We are at war and we are soldiers. We shoot first and ask questions later.

Can you say more about Wilson’s testimony in this context?

Wilson aired a series of stereotypes that pluralized Michael Brown. In the Renisha McBride case, Theodore Wafer, who was convicted in her killing, kept saying “them,” kept talking about “them.” It was them versus me, and I was terrified.

There was that stereotyped plural in everything he said. He was describing not even a human being, he was describing a terrifying shape onto which all kinds of historical fear [about the black body] were projected.

Dehumanizing. Beastializing. Cartooning. That’s precisely the danger of prejudice and stereotypes. That you don’t see the human being in front of you, you see a template, a projection, a hallucination of your worst fears that makes the fear greater than the situation that you’re actually in.

What does reform look like to you at this moment?

The civil rights movement is changing, technology is changing, surveillance is changing, the ability to control populations is changing.

I’m delighted to see that Mike Brown’s family is pushing for cameras on police officers, but at the same time, I think that cameras absolutely everywhere have potential for their own abuses that we are only beginning to deal with and appreciate.

So looking at the long-term, I think we are living in a moment of great societal change that makes it very hard to predict exactly what kind of enduring reforms will work best. Everybody is a bit like a deer frozen in the headlights.

There is an incredible amount of energy right now. It seems that the conversation changes in the wake of the non-indictment, but the focus — on systems, on process, on justice — remains very much the same.

I hope it will continue. I think that the kind of hard work that it’s going to take to make these changes has to do with changing the police departments, which means changing the geography of communities. The checkerboard nature — black and white, wealthy and low-income — has to change. And that is a bigger, bigger battle.

One of the things I am writing about is what I think was one of the galvanizing moments — how Mike Brown’s body was left there for four and a half hours. Police said, Oh we couldn’t get the coroner, we didn’t have the resources. They let that body lie there for four and a half hours while the entire neighborhood looked on. Everybody saw the disrespect of letting a body lie there for that length of time.

It reminds me of the disrespect shown in the Eric Garner case. Where the EMTs wouldn’t even touch the body. They saw this man literally struggling for his last breath, and just watched. There is this untouching. Once you kill someone, you do not touch the black body. You do not bother to give the body dignity or respect.

Then you had the family, the neighbors, and the children coming home from schools all screaming and crying on the other side of the police ribbon. This is what I think galvanized the energy of this particular response. That so many people saw first hand for so long the police walking slowly around, casually, while the body was left there. We didn’t treat Hitler’s body that way.

People teeming with emotion over the distress. When you are watching a family going crazy hour after hour. That so many people were on the street seeing that happen. At least in Ferguson, that will never be forgotten.

Katie McDonough is Salon's politics writer, focusing on gender, sexuality and reproductive justice. Follow her on Twitter @kmcdonovgh or email her at kmcdonough@salon.com.
I'm not interested in arguing about this - I'm so heartsick at this point, I just can't stand to. So I won't be back to weigh in further, I agree entirely with Professor Williams so you know my viewpoint on all this.

eta: This one other article link, because I also agree with the perspectives of the folks in this Twitter feed - although it's hard to even contemplate 'joking' about this injustice. http://time.com/3606168/darren-wilson-p ... -pictures/
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you didn t post the picture of the left side of his face. that s where he was hit.

when I saw his picture I thought that the thing about not seeing the person in front of should apply to him as well....

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not really fair to pull a lois lerner on us. stay and discuss it or come back to it after thanksgiving, it s important.

as far as the grand ury indictment usually being a foregone conclusion, you are correct but that doesn t make it right. the DA should present all available evidence to the grand jury. if he doesn t, they have the power to demand it, or investigate it themselves.

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You are incorrect; the photo I posted as supplement to the Salon piece is the side of his face that was injured.

Here are the other photos:

Same bruise from a distance:
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It's not important that I argue with you about this, wesw. Maybe to you, but not to me. I'm tired of it, and truly sick at heart at the reality of racism that has so clearly raised its ugly head since we elected a nigger President.

That 'sweet-faced' child cop? It is very easy for me to believe he's a murdering sociopath who took the first opportunity available to him to use his gun to take a life (worthless street punk, anyway) because I've been working with cops for almost 20 years now in one capacity or another, and I follow these issues almost obsessively - all the little stories of police brutality that most of you haven't even heard of. I've heard far too many credible stories of excessive use of force from citizens citing behavior from cops who look just as sweet as Wilson.

He gunned that kid down - what was it, 7 shots? 9 shots? - and he doesn't even have anything like the injuries Zimmerman had on him when he shot Trayvon Martin once.

I don't want to argue about it, because quite frankly I'm at the point where I don't want to be disappointed to learn the true feelings on this subject of people I otherwise enjoy sharing company with. In fact, I'm not opening this thread or any others about Ferguson again.

Again, I'm just heartbroken to realize that it is so hard for so many Americans to open their eyes to the experience of brown people in this country, to empathize with it, and to demand better treatment by the police toward ALL citizens. I look forward to the day when enough lawsuits will cause LEOs everywhere to be required to wear body cameras - then the bullying with impunity, up to and including murder, will stop; as will the lying and covering up by other LEOs, including prosecutors.
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Note: that mark on his face looks a lot like my face after my father pounded on me. Little visible damage...but he knocked out two teeth and probably gave me a concussion.

Anyone denying that the shooting was justified is delusional, ignorant, or just a race-baiter. It's that simple.
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I'm not delusional, I'm far from ignorant and I'm no race-baiter.

If Wilson had any such injuries as you describe, it would have been documented by the medical exam. What a fucking stupid comparison to even bother throwing in, Jarl. That's being willfully ignorant.

Yeah, you love to weigh in on my cop thread with strong assertions that cops are the vilest of humans, but yet when a case is there to be made that one has engaged in excessive use of force, you defend him.

Guess what? I'm a prosecutor and former/future defense attorney who knows criminal law better than anybody else on this board - I am entirely confident in making that assertion. And I can tell you that there was more than sufficient evidence to convict Wilson, more than sufficient evidence to meet the prosecutor's burden of believing he could convict beyond a reasonable doubt.

He ran that grand jury proceeding in the most fucked up fashion, essentially acting as Wilson's defense attorney. It was a disgusting abrogation of his duty to serve ALL the citizens of his jurisdiction, including black kids alleged to have stolen cigars. Even the most loathsome of criminals - which Brown was not - are entitled to be protected from murderous thug cops.

Now I'm really done - I won't open this thread again, so please don't bother wasting time replying if your reply is meant for me. I'm logging out and maybe I'll come back in a few weeks when this is all off the top page.
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bigskygal wrote:I'm tired of it, and truly sick at heart at the reality of racism that has so clearly raised its ugly head since we elected a nigger President.
bigskygal wrote:I'm not delusional, I'm far from ignorant and I'm no race-baiter.

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bigskygal wrote: Now I'm really done - I won't open this thread again .
Bet you do!
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I saw the cop say he got hit on the left side of his face and I saw a picture of an injury to the left side of his face. if you sit in the driver seat, the left side of your face is exposed. perhaps you are mistaken about that bit.... or maybe I am. if you read the other fergason thread, and my post there, I think you ll see that I hold the police responsible for much, but I ve also been beaten by large men before, it s scary

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FWIW Wilson stated in his post-incident interview that he was hit by glancing blows - it was a struggle through a car window (witnessed by others) and not a scientific boxing match.
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Again, all the forensic, ballistic, physical evidence, supports that this standard:
Under Missouri law, a police officer is authorized to use force in self-defense (when in fear of death or great bodily harm to himself or another person)
http://www.policeone.com/ferguson/artic ... -indicted/

was clearly met.

Given the physical evidence, it would have been a gross miscarriage of justice and abuse of the legal system for Wilson to be indicted.

Unless of course, you have an OJ Simpson-type theory of the case, where all the evidence is planted and/or manufactured ("Brown's DNA is on Wilson's gun? Somebody must have planted it there."...)
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Good lord, drama queen much?

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I'm going to go out on a limb here, and guess that even though that post follows mine, it probably wasn't directed at me... 8-)
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I am sure it is not hard to guess who that is directed at.

I hope she took her progressive liberal speech page with her.

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Lord Jim wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb here, and guess that even though that post follows mine, it probably wasn't directed at me... 8-)
I've heard that Gob prefers to go out on a lamb? :?:
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I think this would be a good place to repost Gen'l Meade's link to the excellent NY Times analysis of this, for anyone truly interested in "worthwhile reading" on the subject:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... .html?_r=0
Mr. Brown’s body was about 153 feet east of Officer Wilson’s car. Mr. Brown’s blood was about 25 feet east of his body. This evidence supports statements that Mr. Brown continued to move closer to the officer after being hit by an initial string of bullets.
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He shows no physical evidence of being struck at all.

Maybe someone so prone to being afwaid needs to be in a different line of work.


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Uh - oh 3 year old speak this early in the morning? Going to be one of those days.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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Oh come on rube, surely someone who's been punched out as often as you must have been, would know it looks a lot worse the next day....

In any event the extent of Wilson's injuries aren't what's dispositive here in determining that no indictment was justified. There's plenty more in the forensics that leads inescapably to that conclusion.
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I m not going to be rude today. have a good holiday rube.

there are other pictures....

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