Things that change how I feel about swimming in the ocean.

[BoSoxGal]

rubato,

I've been psychologically evaluated by licensed professionals no fewer than three (3) times for various sensitive employment positions I've held with children and 'passed' with flying colors as a grounded and no-more-than typically neurotic person, yet I'm supposed to accept that I'm batshit crazy/mentally ill because Lord Jim and @w deem it so, based apparently on my being outspoken and willing to point out narcissism when I see it - that's the mentality you are dealing with here.

LJ can't stop stalking you - you challenge everything about his world view and more importantly, you challenge his ego because you refuse to be ruffled by even his ugliest attacks. He can't stop; it's a compulsion. It's maddening to him that you. don't. care.

If he can stop, I've love to see him prove it BY STOPPING for just one month.

But he can't.

So he won't.

As my dear departed Gram used to say, "consider the source."

[Lord Jim]

Utterly delusional, in complete denial, and a suck-up groupie to the nastiest prick on three boards to boot...

My, my, what an attractive and compelling combination...

LJ can't stop stalking you

How would you know what I post? You've got me on ignore, remember?

I'm batshit crazy/mentally ill because Lord Jim and @w deem it so

That's odd; I posted about your obvious mental problems after you said you had put me on ignore...

I guess in addition to your other wonderful, noble, virtuous and all-around colossally fantastic qualities and skills, you're also a mind reader...

I've said before that I thought that her decision to play kissy-fanny with rube might be based on her ideological affinity with him, but then I remembered the simple key to understanding what motivates BSG; "everything is personal"...

A number of times before and since her return, rube has put up posts to the affect that she is "too good for the awful people here"...he probably tells her similar things in PMs and/or off-line...

That kind of bull-stuff is just the sort of nourishment that her Hindenburg-sized ego feasts on...consequently she has decided he can do no wrong, and has extended all the fanciful things she believes about herself, ("innocent target", "persecuted for being a truth teller" etc, etc,) to him...

It is of course sad and pathetic that such an emotional and mental basket case would choose someone who is himself such a psychological dented can to become so emotionally vested in...but she's so damned nasty about it, it really is tough to care...(The vileness is probably a way she sees as proving her "worthiness" to rube...)

I've been psychologically evaluated by licensed professionals no fewer than three (3) times

I suggest that you find a fourth shrink, and have them read what you've been posting here for the past couple of weeks or so...

If he/she lets you leave their office without a prescription for Thorazine and a full schedule for intensive therapy sessions, they should have their license pulled...

Of course BSG will never be aware of my advice, since, you know, she's got me on ignore...

[wesw]

in the words of a great American.... Stop it!!!!! now!!!!

I had to leave this place for a few days. the venom being spewed, during Christmas no less, was too much. watching big sky and jim trying to hurt each other was sickening.

blame, or defend, rubato if you want, but it was you two who were horrible. rubato is like the serpent holding the apple out to you. you two are only too happy to gobble the wretched offering down.

if you guys keep it up you ll make meade a very happy man, because I ll be gone from here.

wes

[wesw]

I mean really, if someone of my limited intellect could overcome the urge to respond to obviously malicious provocations, you should be able to do the same. it s called learning. try it.

[MajGenl.Meade]

Well, my feelings about swimming have certainly been changed by this thread.

[Big RR]

wesw--I skipped to the end of this post as nothing really worthwhile (at least to me) is being discussed. Don't walk away from the board, do what I do and just either ignore the odd flame war or, if it takes over the post, the entire thread. I'll check them now and again to see if anything worth commenting on has been said, but if it bothers you that much, just ignore the thread.

Posts like these notwithstanding, there are a number of good discussions on this board as well; focus on those and stay.

[wesw]

thank you RR. that means a lot to me.

[wesw]

it is just painful to watch people tear each other down.

[oldr_n_wsr]

What BigRR said.
I don't get involved.
I try and be civil no matter what, but I human and may fall short of that goal. But it's progress, not perfection.
There are some good learning opportunities are here. Find them and leave the rest alone.

[MajGenl.Meade]

wesw--I skipped to the end of this post as nothing really worthwhile (at least to me) is being discussed. Don't walk away from the board, do what I do and just either ignore the odd flame war or, if it takes over the post, the entire thread. I'll check them now and again to see if anything worth commenting on has been said, but if it bothers you that much, just ignore the thread.

Posts like these notwithstanding, there are a number of good discussions on this board as well; focus on those and stay.

Good advice, Big RR. I'd hate to see anyone leave because of this kind of futile and ever-lengthening abuse back and forth. One of the purposes of 'ignore' for me is not so much to avoid reading what someone else has written - it is to avoid my own temptation to post something particularly nasty in return. wesw is the only one on my list for that very reason - he's not the problem I wanted to fix.

[oldr_n_wsr]

he's not the problem I wanted to fix

Does that ever happen?
Seems like a futile endeavor.

[wesw]

I get exactly what you are saying meade. i too endeavor to restrain my baser instincts.

[MajGenl.Meade]

he's not the problem I wanted to fix

Does that ever happen?
Seems like a futile endeavor.

You're saying that my effort to fix my own bad behavior never happens and is futile?

Perhaps you didn't understand what I wrote, oldr.

[oldr_n_wsr]

he's not the problem I wanted to fix

Does that ever happen?
Seems like a futile endeavor.

You're saying that my effort to fix my own bad behavior never happens and is futile?

Perhaps you didn't understand what I wrote, oldr.

I guess not.
I was thinking of you trying to change someone elses mind/behaviour/opinion/thought process.
So I guess it's my misunderstanding. Thanks for the clarification.

ETA
Wroking on ones own behaviour (for the better) is never futile.

[wesw]

resistence is futile. do not resist! do not resist! Exterminate!!!! Exterminate!!!!

[Big RR]

oldr--we all try our beast to be civil, and we all fall short at some time or another.

wes--I see this board like a town street where people interact; sometimes we join a discussion, other times we don't. Sometimes people even fight, often for reasons we can't (or don't) fully comprehend, sometimes for reasons we do understand but don't agree with; in those cases, it's best to just stay out of it. As I learned along time ago (especially in bars), the person trying to break the fight up may often be the one who winds up hurt (or gets blamed), so IMHO, it's just not worth getting involved unless you personally see a reason to.

meade--your judicious use of ignore for that reason makes a lot of sense; sometime someone just pushes the right buttons and draws you in--better to avoid that if you can IMHO.

[oldr_n_wsr]

[BoSoxGal]

wesw, LJ & Gob's attacking of rubato is an ongoing thing - thread after thread, day after day, week after week, month after month.

My attempts to address the adolescent locker-room bullying (that is very draining to watch day after day) have been minimal by comparison. I think including this time, I've tried addressing it not even half a dozen times in the several years since LJ returned to posting and the hostility went through the roof.

rubato may be a total asshole; he may have a psychological condition that prevents him from seeing how his posts are interpreted by others. I don't know. But I do know, as others have pointed out, that every time he posts something that is interpreted as nasty, we get to see 10x the vitriol in responding posts by LJ, Gob, etc.

I'm not interested in making things ugly for anyone here, but I'm not going to be bullied into agreeing with LJ and Gob just because it's largely their board in terms of numbers of posts and numbers of conversations dominated. You mention it's ugly to see this at Christmastime - well, it's exactly that reason that prompted to me to ask why they can't have courtesy to the rest of us to quit pig-piling on him.

I've got LJ on ignore and he's staying there - the content of his posts are not of sufficient quality, in my opinion, to overcome the distastefulness of the hostility toward rubato.

I can't put Gob on ignore because he can't be fucked to give me that option - something that would probably take 5 minutes of his time to create an alternate administrator login. Whatever. Yes, I'm going to point out when he's acting the bully.

There is a lot of hypocrisy here. Certain posters can bully with impunity, but when they are the target - watch out!

Feel free to put me on ignore if you like. I don't post all that much anyway, and as I was gone for two years or more while starting my last new job, I'm not likely to be posting much the next several months as I launch my new business. There are lots of things way more important than posting here.

[TPFKA@W]

oldr--we all try our beast to be civil, and we all fall short at some time or another.

What do you feed your beast?


Happy New Year!

[MajGenl.Meade]

At least it gets a trial - typical lawyer post, I suppose.