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Western Australian backbenchers Luke Simpkins and Don Randall have announced they will move a leadership spill against the Prime Minister on Tuesday, declaring Tony Abbott's decision to knight Prince Philip was the "final proof" of the government's disconnection with voters.

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Supporters of Mr Abbott and the undeclared potential rival Malcolm Turnbull were both expressing confidence in their candidates having the numbers in the event the motion is passed.

Mr Simpkins emailed colleagues on Friday to say he had been inundated by voters with concerns about the direction of the government.

"The last time this outpouring of concern happened was when we were being led to support the Rudd government's ETS [emissions trading scheme] and faced with this erosion of our base support we acted," he said.

"I think that we must bring this to a head and test the support of the leadership of the party room.

"I have therefore submitted to the chief government whip a motion to spill the leadership positions of the Federal Parliamentary Liberal Party."

The motion threatens to end Tony Abbott's tenure as Prime Minister but there is still no other leadership candidate. Although Mr Turnbull is expected to contest the position he has not yet declared his intentions.

Leadership speculation has been building since Mr Abbott's infamous Australia Day honour, with his decision to knight Prince Philip widely ridiculed. The party's disastrous performance in the Queensland state election on the weekend put further pressure on the Prime Minister.

Two backbenchers supporting Mr Abbott expressed dismay at the call for a spill.

"This is a motion for a spill, it's not a spill," said Liberal MP Angus Taylor.
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The motion threatens to end Tony Abbott's tenure as Prime Minister but there is still no other leadership candidate.
Yeah, well there's a fundamental rule of politics...

You can't beat somebody with nobody, even if you don't like the somebody...

That having been said, there must be some more substantive internal party skullduggery afoot that explains the challenge to Abbott rather then this silly nonsense about The Greek Sailor...
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Julie Bishop or Malcolm Turnbull are the potential benefactors.
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Gob wrote:
Western Australian backbenchers Luke Simpkins and Don Randall have announced they will move a leadership spill against the Prime Minister on Tuesday, declaring Tony Abbott's decision to knight Prince Philip was the "final proof" of the government's disconnection with voters.
Meaning: "this was a trivial symbolic act with no real consequence whatsoever but he actually hasn't done anything of substance wrong I can whine about."
"The last time this outpouring of concern happened was when we were being led to support the Rudd government's ETS [emissions trading scheme] and faced with this erosion of our base support we acted," he said.
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Although that was something with a concrete effect on public policy which deserved a real response, whether you agreed or not.


The motion threatens to end Tony Abbott's tenure as Prime Minister but there is still no other leadership candidate. Although Mr Turnbull is expected to contest the position he has not yet declared his intentions.


Elect Muffin Man! The one who will keep you frothing over trivia every single day!


Tie him to a dung cart and tow him out of town.

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That having been said, there must be some more substantive internal party skullduggery afoot that explains the challenge to Abbott rather then this silly nonsense about The Greek Sailor...
Most likely true.

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Apparently his popularity numbers are down so some of the sharks in the party are circling...

You know what a bunch of fickle, spoiled brats those Australians are; they turn on their political leaders very easily, they're all about "what have you done for me lately?"...

They threw out the last PM despite a booming economy....

Those roofuckers are never satisfied; cry babies the lot of 'em... :P
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I think that's part and parcel of the parliamentary system; unlike our chief executive, the prime minister serves at the discretion of his party (or more likely the coalition) that put him/her in power. It's pretty tough to keep everyone happy, and its much easier for the parliament to get rid of him/her than our impeachment system. I'm actually surprised this doesn't happen a lot more often. :lol:

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I would appear that rubato's ignorance on cricket is not the only area of lack of knowledge he excels in.
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The usual weak inability to respond to substance combined with a compulsion to spew shit.


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Oh, I don't know. I thought your post wasn't that bad.

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rubato wrote:The usual weak inability to respond to substance combined with a compulsion to spew shit.


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You should have that as your sig.
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The "spill" count is on!
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No spill! Abbott does not face a challenge and remains PM :-(
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Who the heck dreamed up the term "spill"? Do they mean a vote of no confidence (clearly that's what it is)? Do they spill coffee... dribble... drool... light a fire... drive like Jen Brucer?
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In Australian politics, a leadership spill is a declaration that the leadership of a parliamentary party is vacant, and open for re-election. A spill may involve all leadership positions (leader and deputy leader in both houses), or just the leader.

A leadership election may result in a new leader, or may confirm the status quo. If the party in question is in government, the election of a new leader will result in a new Prime Minister, Premier or Chief Minister; if the party is the opposition, the election of a new leader will result in a new Opposition Leader.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leadership_spill
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MajGenl.Meade wrote:Who the heck dreamed up the term "spill"? Do they mean a vote of no confidence (clearly that's what it is)? Do they spill coffee... dribble... drool... light a fire... drive like Jen Brucer?
It's a mystery. Mickey Spillane.

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LR's makes more sense. Stupid word "spill".
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I wonder if the history of this usage stems from the use of the word "spill" to designate a fall (I recall I had an older great aunt who used to say "that was quite a spill" if someone fell. Thus, it could denote a fall from power or knocking someone from the podium.

Another possibility is the connotation that one will pour out (spill) spoiled liquid, so again the spoiled PM or other leader is "spilled" from his/her position.

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