I'm saying nowt.

[Gob]

Forget the pictures you've seen in adult films and the "lifelike" drawings scrawled on public bathrooms, there is now a scientific guide for the average penis size - and hopefully it will put some men at ease.



British researchers have pooled the measurements of more than 15,000 men's penises to more closely determine what constitutes "normal-sized" anatomy.

They found the average penis is 13.12 centimetres when erect and 9.31 centimetres when flaccid.

The team, led by psychiatrist David Veale, created graphs of both length and girth, finding the vast majority of men range between 11 and 15 centimetre in length and between 10 and 13 centimetres in circumference when erect.

"We believe these graphs will help doctors reassure the large majority of men that the size of their penis is in the normal range," said Dr Veale, a specialist in body dysmorphic disorders at King's College London Medical School.

Only 2.28 per cent of the population have an abnormally small penis.

The researchers didn't measure 15,000 men themselves - they combined the measurements of 20 other studies, from a variety of countries, into a meta-analysis.



The report dispelled several myths about penis size being related to a man's shoe size or index finger. While urban legend says men of African descent tend to be well-endowed, the report found there was insufficient evidence to draw any conclusions about differences in the penis size of different races.

The question of size is one most men consider at some point in their life. One study included in the analysis reported that 55 percent of men were not satisfied with their size.

"This is a centuries-old issue," Dr Veale told Fairfax Media. "It may have gotten worse as men may compare against models in porn films over the internet."

But the same study found only 15 percent of women took issue with their partner's anatomy.

"Girth is usually more important than length - and technique is more important," said Dr Veale.

The team said the size scale may offer comfort to men who are overly concerned by the size, a condition known as "small penis anxiety".

Dr Veale said about 10 percent of males, mostly young men, may have the condition. An even smaller proportion suffer body dysmorphic disorder (BDD), where they are preoccupied with the size of their penis and find it shameful.

"We will also use the graphs to examine the discrepancy between what a man believes to be their position on the graph and their actual position, or what they think they should be," said Dr Veale, whose analysis has been published in the scientific journal BJU International.

One bone of contention is that only a few studies collected measurements while men had an erect penis; most studies had men stretch their flaccid penis to infer its erect size.

Dr Shomik Sengupta, from the Urological Society of Australia and New Zealand, said for those men who fixate on the issue of size, these comparisons may not reduce their anxiety.

But he said treatments for penile enlargements, while widely advertised, were often not effective and potentially dangerous.

[Long Run]

If this hosting site can convert the time for each logged in user, why can't it convert lengths to U.S. standard measurements?

2.54

[wesw]

damn tape measures are too sharp...

....I m bleeding out

[Big RR]

Well it proves what a gym coach told us in sex ed about "showers and growers"; some men have a larger flaccid penis that just gets hard and doesn't change much in length during an erection (showers) and others have a smaller flaccid penis that may double or more in size during an erection (growers)--I guess he came up with this after a lifetime of watching boys in the locker room (if the rumors are to be believed). My guess is that it is genetics, and that doing this study in other countries may include much more "showers".

[MajGenl.Meade]

I made the comparison with the graphs... now how do I clean this screen?

[TPFKA@W]

For every inch of belly a man a man has he loses an inch of penis. I now have 2 gentlemen in the facility who weigh over 500lbs. Both have penises which are now in negative integers.

I call them toads in the hole.

[Big RR]

I might give you that for every (approx.) 6 inches in waist circumference the penis will appear 1 inch smaller (since circumference equal 2 pi r and the penis would be compared to the radius of the waist in the front), but not for every inch. Then again, at 500+ lbs, who cares?

[TPFKA@W]

I might give you that for every (approx.) 6 inches in waist circumference the penis will appear 1 inch smaller (since circumference equal 2 pi r and the penis would be compared to the radius of the waist in the front), but not for every inch. Then again, at 500+ lbs, who cares?

I was quoting something a urologist said once. I didn't ever do the math.

[MajGenl.Meade]

er... Big RR. It's not a matter of appearance (relative penis/waist appearance). The fact is that the extra weight is gained not just around the midriff but around the er.... lower-riff. The big scary fella kinda vanishes bit by bit as the weight goes on. Negative is entirely possible. Pushing the fat back by hand actually reveals the charming gentleman lurking in his sweaty cave just as ever. No actual shrinkage occurs.

LJ told me so it must be true.

[BoSoxGal]

I had a very nice but fairly overweight boyfriend once - Meade's explanation is exactly correct.


I also have had a few boyfriends/sexual partners of different races.
In my experience, the stereotypes regarding race and penis size hold true. (YMMV)

[Econoline]

ETA:

[TPFKA@W]

er... Big RR. It's not a matter of appearance (relative penis/waist appearance). The fact is that the extra weight is gained not just around the midriff but around the er.... lower-riff. The big scary fella kinda vanishes bit by bit as the weight goes on. Negative is entirely possible. Pushing the fat back by hand actually reveals the charming gentleman lurking in his sweaty cave just as ever. No actual shrinkage occurs.

LJ told me so it must be true.

Yes, that nicely sums up the situation. If one fishes about in the hole, the toad can be found. The fishing about being a necessity for inserting a catheter. Oh my God, the screaming that the man makes when the ladies have to do this. (He retains urine and so one must go after it or the man will explode.) He screams like a teenage girl.

[Big RR]

Well you learn something every day; I had never even thought of fat accumulating there. Not a pleasant picture, but thanks.

[MajGenl.Meade]

Here's your not a pleasant picture, Big RR! (Gob sent it to me)

[oldr_n_wsr]

TMI!!!!!!

[TPFKA@W]

Here's your not a pleasant picture, Big RR! (Gob sent it to me)

Selfies are all the rage now but this might be going a bit too far.

[Lord Jim]

Selfies are all the rage now but this might be going a bit too far.

Well, give him a little credit here...

He didn't just snap this with a smart phone...

This is a detailed color drawing that presumably involved spending hours in front of a mirror, (which can't have been a pleasant experience) and the use of a magnifying glass...

[Gob]

Here's your not a pleasant picture, Big RR! (Gob sent it to me)

You sod, I did not!!

[MajGenl.Meade]

But... but... they're all admiring your artistry!

[Big RR]

Is it fat or shrinkage (maybe it's cold?)responsible for the hiding of the Vienna sausage (doesn't quite look like it deserves to be called a salami)?