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Big RR wrote:Or if they already have a major meal planned on Christmas, perhaps you could volunteer for New Years (eve or day).
Going with my sponsor to the VA wednesday night to see what they need. I can do New years also (but then I would miss the Honeymooners marathon) :o .

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You know older, you could buy the Honeymooners (original episodes) DVD set and see the marathon anytime (and as many times as) you want.

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Big RR wrote:You know older, you could buy the Honeymooners (original episodes) DVD set and see the marathon anytime (and as many times as) you want.
But it's more fun on New Years Eve-Day.
I'm not a big "boxed set" enthusiast, I own none. ;)
I have movies on dvd that I have never watched.
Only boxed set of anything I have is the Calvin and Hobbes complete collection.

On the Christmas with vets. I talked to my sponsor yesterday and he said they have plenty of help Christmas and New years eve/days. They would like to set me up doing things at other times as there are not enough volly's during "regular" days/nights. So I'll get to do things for them during the year. Works for me.

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Got called in yesterday morning to help with the new years brunch at the VA. Helped a few vets with no arms and/or limited mobility eat their breakfast. They actually are pretty resourceful and only needed minimal help. I got a good feeling when I was done.

I could tell they are were little "with-holding" in regards to me, the newcomer, especially someone who was not in hte military. My sponsor said they will warm up to me as I visit/help out more often.

Looking forward to more trips there.

More than a few with substance abuse problems.

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happy new year !

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Hope I made the start of the new year a little easier for some.
Happy New Year to you too wesw. :ok

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Well done mate!!
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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Lately I am feeling a little "disconnected" from my higher power. Don't know what it is as things are going rather well for me and I am trying to give back as mush as possible. I say my prayers every mornign and give thanks every night before bed but still I feel a little empty. My sponsor will be at the meeting tonight and I'll see what he has to say about it. In the mean time, I'll keep trying to connect.

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Good on you for recognising that mate, it's when we do not recognise these things that they become problems.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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Found this while surfing the net. While my circumstances are not the same as her fathers, they are exactly the same only different.
Now I have tears in my eyes and can't wait to get home and hug my wife and daughter ()son is in Fla but I will text him). :cry:

I would like to say that if I had read this years ago (before my kids were born or when they were younger) I would have gotten sober sooner or not gone alcoholic at all, but that would probably be a lie. No one can get alcoholics sober other than the alcoholic themselves and their higher power. No tears from the kids, no threats of separation from the wife, nothing. Each alcoholic has his own bottom which gets him to commit to getting sober.

Sad but true.
How The Death Of My Alcoholic Dad Made Me A Better Mother
By Susannah B. Lewis

My father was hilarious and creative and the best friend that a guy with a truck stuck in a ditch at 4 am could have. He was intelligent and hard-working and the life of the party. He could strum a guitar and build a tree house and fix a satellite dish. He was a great friend and employee, and I thought he was a great father.

It wasn’t until I grew up that I realized he was crappy to our family.

My father, like his father before him, was an alcoholic. His drink of choice was Jack Daniels and Coke. I distinctly remember the smell. For so long, I thought my dad’s natural aroma was the sweet scent of Tennessee whiskey.

Daddy wasn’t some deadbeat drunk, though. He went to work every morning, without exception. However, when his work day was done, he didn’t come home. He drove right past our house and went to the country club for a late round of golf, a poker game and a trough of Jack and Coke. My mother and I rarely saw him, and when we did, he was usually too drunk to carry on a conversation that didn’t somehow reference the Beatles.

My father finally got sober when I was 10. During that time, he regularly repented for his mistakes and wanted to make up for his absence. He took my mother on dates, me to the movies and his mother to brunch. But that recompense was short lived. He fell off the wagon one cold, November night when I was 11 and passed away from a heart attack the very next day.

When I became a wife and mother, my father had been buried on a cool hill overlooking the countryside for over a decade. I had no idea that our relationship and the dysfunctional bond that he had with my mom would affect my roles as wife and mother.

I often watched my parents argue. I didn’t know why they fought so much, but now that I’m an adult, I’m guessing that my mother wasn’t too fond of him hugging a bottle of whiskey instead of her. I’m now certain that arguments escalated because he was her primary source of worry, the subject of her many prayers. I never saw them act affectionately toward one another or work together as a team. As a child, I thought it was normal for the man of the house to stumble in late every night, warm his dinner in the microwave and sleep on the couch.

My mother bore the role of both parents. She alone made up the rules, dished out the discipline and provided the answers and advice. I subconsciously absorbed that she worked alone, and when I became a wife and mother, I instinctively pushed my husband aside and tried to rule the roost.

The thing is: I have something that my mother didn’t. I have a husband who views parenting as a team effort. Our children have a responsible and ever-present father who is capable of guiding them and confiscating the iPod when necessary. I don’t have to work alone. I don’t have to be the strong leader. I can safely be one half of our household’s parenting unit. I have a real relationship. I’m not married to a man like my father.

My dad didn’t just have a drinking problem. He also had a patience problem, as in, he didn’t have any. I didn’t inherit his love for bourbon, but I did inherit his inability to be content.

I remember the only time my daddy took me to the zoo. He hurried me through each exhibit and I didn’t even get to feed the giraffe or watch the zookeepers scoop up a mountain of elephant dung. The entire afternoon, like each of the few “family trips” that we took together, was rushed. When he went to rehab several years later, he wrote me a letter and explained the reason for his eagerness to cut our quality time short.

"The zoo didn’t sell alcohol. So I didn’t want to be at the zoo."

No, I’m not addicted to alcohol, but I am addicted to impatiently completing tasks. That’s not really a fault unless you’re like me and view moments that are meant to be relaxing and enjoyable as tasks.

I thought of my father’s written explanation the last time I took my kids to the zoo. I didn’t have the need to grab a drink, but I did have the need to hurry my kids along so we could see the polar bears and the pandas and still have time to pick up the dry-cleaning and start dinner and get everyone in bed before 9PM.

Thing is, my kids were completely content watching the meerkats. And I ruined it for them.

"We’ve seen the meerkats, okay? They aren’t doing anything but popping in and out of dirt holes. There are 1-ton polar bears just around the corner. Let’s go! Let’s go! Let’s go!” I nudged them along as they licked melting ice cream cones and told the meerkats goodbye.

I remember my father saying, “Let’s go,” when it wasn’t absolutely necessary for us to go anywhere. His words made me feel nervous and anxious, as if my idea of enjoyment and contentment was stupid.

I never want my children to feel that way.

I loved my father, and I know that he loved me. I know that his disease prohibited him from being the family man that he truly desired to be. His poisonous issues spilled onto me and tried to spill onto my relationship with my husband and my children.

If he was still alive, I know that he would adore these children that I named after him, the same way that he adored me, but would his addiction still take precedence in his life? Would alcohol dependence prevent him from being not only a good husband and father, but a good grandfather? Would my parents be divorced? Would their dysfunctional relationship constantly distort my views of marriage?

I think so.

Would he nudge me and the kids along on the rare occasion that he accompanied us to the park or the zoo? Would the sweet smell of Tennessee whiskey permeate from his truck if he came to pick them up for the afternoon? Would he spoil them with presents, as he did me, just to make up for his physical and emotional absence? Would I stay awake at night worrying that he crashed his truck on the way home from his nightly whiskey binge at the country club? Would my alcoholic father be not only a burden to me, but to my kids?

I think that he would.

Although his death was incredibly tragic and left me broken, his life may have done the same for my marriage and my children. And like any good spouse and parent, my family’s happiness trumps all.

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Been a little 'off kilter" in the spiritual department lately. I say my prayers in the morning and night and during the day if I am feeling down but just don't feel the connection as much as I would like or that I have felt in the past. Don't know what it is. Maybe I am pushing for the feelign too much and not just lettign it happen. I have done that in hte past and have only felt better when I stopped trying so hard.

I changed up my prayers this morning so we'll see.
Maybe it's the weather making me a little down (although I like the snow and the cold).
Snowmobiling this weekend could lift the spirits (if I do go).
A big hug to/from teh wife when I get home tonight will work also.
Feeling better just thinking about that.
Thanks for listening.
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hang in there older. you re a good man Charlie brown!!!

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Have you read Desiderata lately? I have mine framed by my bedroom door and try to read it weekly, but sometimes I don't and when I'm feeling low or defeated, I make a point to read it and 'sit with it' for a bit - like a meditation. It almost always cheers me up.

Meditation, by the way, is a great tool for self-care. If you've never done it, there are phone apps and podcasts and even old-fashioned CDs that guide you in practice to start. Studies show it helps with blood pressure, depression, anxiety, etc. I always feel more centered and solid when I make the time to do it.

Hang in there oldr - you are loved!
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
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All good lately. Been helping out and serving breakfast on Sunday mornings at the VA (not the last two weekends as I went snowmobiling). This coming sunday will be my last for a while as another volly wants a chance to do it for a while (he's also a recovering alcoholic).
Snowmobiling was loads of fun. My daughter came with me last week and we spotted a bald eagle and two other eagles while we were riding. The other eagles might have been young bald eagles as they didn't have the tell tale white head. Or maybe golden eagles.
We went through the game land down to the Delaware river and road along the rail road track from Narrowsburg to the ten mile river junction. We also took rattlesnake trail through the woods to the town of Beach Lake. Good 3 hour ride. Started out it was just a few degrees above 0F and it warmed up to about 15F when we were done.
The snowmobile club was having a poker run, but we came home instead. My dad and brother went to to the run. Didn't win though.
All in all I'm feeling great. Been going to my meeting and my group therapy on tuesday. I'll been finished with that in another month or so. (at least that's what my counselor told me). Getting a new shrink as there is a management change and my current shrink is moving on. She recommended this new one and says she is a really nice lady along with a good shrink, so we'll see.
Coming up on 7 months clean but I don't like to count.
I am sober so far today.
Hope everyone has a great day.

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Lovely to get good news mate, thanks for sharing.
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Had my colonoscopy on Monday. The doc removed a lot of polyps (he stopped counting after 20). I have an appointment in a month to go over the biopsy results and then I get to go for another colonoscopy in three months to have him remove more of the polyps. Hopefully none are cancerous and that he can remove the rest. The doc was not that concerned other than there were a lot of polyps. Seemd to know the types I had usually are not cancerous so I am not too worried. Of course my wife is thinking the worst.

He took so many out that I was instructed not to eat for another 24 hours after the procedure. I was not built to live for two days surviving on only gatorade and jello (and not even cherry/strawberry jello, only yellow or green jello). funny, when I was drinking, I could go for two days not eating as long as i was consuming alcohol :loon
And yesterday when I did eat my first meal (a scrambled egg and a piece of toast) it did not stay in me for long. Thankfully by the end of the day, the food stayed with me for a while.

Such is life and it will be what it will be.

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That's a lot mate. I had 6 chopped out the last anal excavation I had. Luckily they were all benign.

Good luck my friend.
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Thanks
The doc printed out a bunch of pictures for me, but I will spare you all.
I think next time I'm gonna ask him to save me some of the polyps. They might look good on display in my man cave.

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You're gonna show off you man cave in your man cave?
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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Anal stalactites & stalagmites...

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