UKIP and race/nationality

[Gob]

UKIP would scrap much of the legislation designed to prevent racial discrimination in work, party leader Nigel Farage has said.

He was speaking in a Channel 4 documentary to be shown next week.

Downing Street said his comments were "deeply concerning", while Labour branded them "shocking".

Mr Farage told the BBC his remarks, recorded last autumn, had been "wilfully misinterpreted", saying he was talking about nationality not race.

Speaking to BBC Radio 4's Today Programme he said he was making the point that employers should be able to discriminate in favour of British workers.

"I didn't mention race at all. There was no part of that interview which I ever said it at all.

"What I said was that I do believe there should be a presumption for British employers in favour of them employing British people as opposed to somebody from Poland. That is exactly what I said," he added.

And when asked if he would retain a ban on discrimination on the grounds of race or colour, he said: "No... because we take the view, we are colour-blind. We as a party are colour-blind."

Criticising recruitment laws, he said: "I think the employer should be much freer to make decisions on who she or he employs.

"I think the situation that we now have, where an employer is not allowed to choose between a British-born person and somebody from Poland, is a ludicrous state of affairs.

"I would argue that the law does need changing, and that if an employer wishes to choose, or you can use the word 'discriminate' if you want to, but wishes to choose to employ a British-born person, they should be allowed to do so."

[Lord Jim]

The UKIP is presenting itself as the British Party of "the working class man"...

The hard working "lunch pail" Brit, who is sick and tired of having his values determined in Brussels..

The Tories and the Labourites are hard put to make an argument against that....

When dealing with a party (and a party leader) who is clever enough not to be dismissed as a BNP-type bully boy...

[Lord Jim]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict...

In the next Parliamentary election this May...

UkIP, 12 to 15 seats...(under the "first past the post" system...by a "proportional vote system" UKIP would get 50-60 seats)...

The Liberal Democrats: 30-40 Seats (even though they'll gett half the vote or less of the UKIP and be way below their current 56 seats, the "first past the post " system will keep them in the game...)

The Scottish National Party...

This is the Wild Card in the pack...

From a Socialist attitude, one would expect the SNP to make common cause with the Labourites...

But the Tories are much more inclined to be on their side when it comes to matters of self government...

[Gob]

BBC certainly shot themselves in the foot with this one, Farage may sue.

[Lord Jim]

Here is my prediction for the next British election, this coming May:

At the end of the day, Mr. Cameron will form The New Government, but it will be a very weak Government...

It will produce a bare working majority including Mr. Farage and his UKIP, a deal cut with the SNP, and whatever is left of the Liberal Democrats...

A Government that could be sustained for two years at the most, before going to an Early National Election...

The alternative would be Labour winning the election...

I don't see that happening...

[Gob]

Not with Millibean at the helm they wont.

[Lord Jim]

As I've said before, Ed Miliband is so hopelessly wet, he makes David Cameron look like Winston Churchill...

(A truly pathetic human being; that a major British political party would put their fortunes in the hands of a "deer-in-the-headlights" frat boy like this is appalling...but there's no accounting for bad taste...)

[Lord Jim]

I really have a difficult time believing that this nerdy looking little twerp:



Really thinks he's qualified to become the next Prime Minister of The United Kingdom...

[Gob]

Everything he touches....

When Ed Miliband was filmed sipping tea at home with his wife Justine, many were surprised that such a well-appointed townhouse had such a small kitchen.

Now it has emerged that the image of the Labour leader as a man of the people with a run-of-the-mill home was not all it appeared. For Mr Miliband actually lives in a house with two kitchens. The poky room the couple were pictured in, albeit with an oven and hob, was revealed last night by a family friend to be a ‘functional kitchenette’ for ‘tea and quick snacks’.



She wrote: ‘Very rarely do I feel sorry for Ed Miliband, but seeing him standing there in his forlorn little kitchen, staring into the middle distance while sipping from a stripy blue-and-white mug, part of me wanted to rush home from work, sling some jolly painted crockery in a bag and head over there with a tin of home-made brownies. ‘Surely that can’t really be Ed and Justine’s kitchen? All that lovely huge, fancy house, and that is where they do their cooking? ‘I hope for their sake that it’s actually their utility room, and that some bossy spin doctor has shoved them in there to make their £2million-plus townhouse in North London’s trendy Kentish Town look less fabulous and to bolster Ed’s man-o’-the-people image.’

Last night Tory MP Nigel Adams said: ‘Clearly there’s no cost of living crisis for “Two Kitchens” Miliband. ‘It’s a bit rich lecturing people about poverty from his £2million mansion. Red Ed can try as much as he likes to portray himself as a man of the people but the only people he’s in touch with are the North London metropolitan elite.’

Last night a Labour Party spokesman declined to comment.

[rubato]

"Nationality" is merely code for "race" and saying "we're colorblind" is just a way of saying "we'll never admit the gross racism in society or do anything about it because we will make it illegal to even see it".


yrs,
rubato

[Lord Jim]

"What I said was that I do believe there should be a presumption for British employers in favour of them employing British people as opposed to somebody from Poland. That is exactly what I said," he added.

"Nationality" is merely code for "race"

I guess that in addition to never having been oppressed by the Nazis, the Poles are also a separate race...(come to think of it, that's the way the Nazis looked at it too)

It seems to me that what Farage is saying is employers ought to be able to give preference in hiring to British citizens, (regardless of race; and today there are many black and brown English citizens) over white Europeans who aren't citizens, but who have migrated to the UK under EU travel freedoms because the economy in Britain is stronger than in their countries.

Under Farage's approach, Idris Elba's or Lenny Henny's kid would be able to have hiring preference over a white person from Romania...

Not really seeing the "race" element there....

[Lord Jim]

It looks like all the ridicule may be taking its toll on Two Kitchens:

Conservatives' poll lead at biggest in three years - YouGov

(Reuters) - Prime Minister David Cameron's Conservatives have a 4 percentage point lead over Labour, according to a YouGov opinion survey published on Tuesday, the largest lead the pollster has recorded for his party in over three years.

Ahead of the May 7 general election, the YouGov poll published in The Sun newspaper put the Conservatives on 35 percent of the vote and Ed Miliband's Labour Party on 31 percent.

That lead was the largest in a YouGov poll since January 20 2012, according to YouGov data.

The poll, carried out on March 8 and 9, comes days after Cameron drew accusations of cowardice from rivals for ruling out a head-to-head televised debate with Miliband before of the election.

The data will add to Conservative hopes that Cameron can now establish a bigger lead over Labour just weeks before what opinion polls show is likely to be one of the closest British elections in at least a generation.

http://au.ibtimes.com/latest-uk-opinion ... mainstream

[Gob]

It seems to me that what Farage is saying is employers ought to be able to give preference in hiring to British citizens, (regardless of race; and today there are many black and brown English citizens) over white Europeans who aren't citizens, but who have migrated to the UK under EU travel freedoms because the economy in Britain is stronger than in their countries.

Under Farage's approach, Idris Elba's or Lenny Henny's kid would be able to have hiring preference over a white person from Rumania...

Not really seeing the "race" element there....

Hmmm...

Citing then Labour PM Gordon Brown’s policy summed up at the time as “British jobs for British workers”, he added: “I suggest the real racists are those who hear me say ‘British’ and think ‘white’. I’m the only leader arguing for Britain’s employers to favour British workers, no matter what their colour.”

[Lord Jim]

Things don't look good for Two Kitchens...

He's definitely a drag on the Labour ticket...

(Pity this isn't Australia; even with just a month and a half to go to the election, they'd sack him and try to replace him with some one less toxic... )

14 things that are more popular than Ed Miliband

Only 13 per cent of people say Ed Miliband is ready to be Prime Minister. That's fewer people than believe Princess Diana was murdered

In a thousand-strong survey, 15 per cent of people said cocaine should be legalised. The same proportion backed legalisation of ecstasy, while an incredible 88 per cent backed decriminalising weed. Still, the Labour leader can console himself that he beats heroin, 11 per cent and ketamine, 9 per cent. Perhaps that should be his new slogan. Ed Miliband: hey, he's better than heroin.



(13 per cent believe in Ed; 20 per cent believe UFOs have landed on earth. )



14 per cent of British people think that this guy staged the biggest terrorist attack ever on his own country. Numerous reports and investigations have found no evidence of conspiracy, but it still seems more likely to some than Ed Miliband being Prime Minister.

More here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... iband.html

On the positive side, Two Kitchens was also found to have a higher popularity rating than ISIS, (9%) "painful rectal itch", (that was a close one; 12%) "having one of my wife's perpetually unemployed relatives take up permanent residence in our home and graze freely in our refrigerator" (11%) and "die a slow and painful death" (8%)...

[MajGenl.Meade]

Looks like a Paki to me

[Lord Jim]

More good news for Two Kitchens:

He's more popular than:

"spending a shitload of money on a woman and not even getting a goodnight kiss" (10%) "having to spend 15 minutes discussing Nietzsche's 'Will To Power' with Susan Sarandon", (11%), "sharing a tent on a camping trip with Adam Sandler" (negative 2%) and "going to bed with a splinter filled 2X4 shoved up my ass"...(6%)

[Lord Jim]

March 16, 2015 1:44 pm
Ukip given major party status but Greens miss out

The UK Independence Party is a major party, but the Green party is not, the communications regulator Ofcom has ruled, in a decision that will guarantee Nigel Farage’s eurosceptic grouping marginally more airtime before May’s general election.

The ruling means there are now four designated major parties in England and Wales — the Conservatives, Labour, Liberal Democrats and Ukip — reflecting the fragmentation in opinion polls in recent months.

Each is entitled to a minimum of two party political broadcasts on key commercial TV and radio stations, including ITV, Channel 4 and Classic FM. The BBC is responsible for its own schedule of party political broadcasts, but is also likely to include Ukip and not the Greens.

Mr Farage called Ofcom’s decision “great news”. “It will cement in people’s minds: if you vote Ukip, you’ll get Ukip,” he posted on Twitter.

Major party status does not affect the TV debates, in which the Greens are now set to be included after a request by David Cameron.[Well that's perfectly understandable; every vote for The Green "Let's have Zero Economic Growth" Party, is one fewer vote for Two Kitchens...]

Ofcom’s decision took into account the fact that Ukip averaged about 15 per cent in recent British opinion polls, while the Greens had 6 per cent. Ukip had also performed more strongly in local and European elections — receiving 29 per cent of the vote in England in 2014 European elections, compared with the Greens’ 8 per cent.

“These are significant points of distinction between Ukip and the Green party for the purposes for this assessment,” the regulator said.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/b71440e8 ... z3UnI8wb2h

[Gob]

Anti-UKIP protesters have invaded a pub in south London where party leader Nigel Farage was having lunch.



Mr Farage was in the Queen's Head in Downe, Kent, with his wife and two younger children at the time.

Demonstrators first went to the George & Dragon, believing it to be Mr Farage's local, before they found him.

They said they chased the family out of the pub and jumped on the politician's car bonnet as he drove away. Mr Farage later branded them "scum".

Mr Farage, who is standing in Kent's Thanet South constituency in May's general election, said: "I hope these 'demonstrators' are proud of themselves. My children were so scared by their behaviour that they ran away to hide.

"... A relative has gone to look for them, and they are not yet at home. These people are scum."

Mr Farage's children aged 15 and 10 were understood to have later been found.

Protest organiser Dan Glass said the group was in fancy dress to stage "a cabaret of diversity" and included migrants, HIV activists, gay people, disabled people and breastfeeding mothers.

[Lord Jim]

Gee, I thought Ukip were supposed to be the Storm Troopers...

[Gob]

British teenagers who want to join ISIS should be given free seats on flights to Iraq and Syria, a Ukip candidate has said.


Keith Fraser, who is standing in Hackney North and Stoke Newington, said money should be spent on chartering planes rather than trying to stop them fighting with extremists.
Around 600 Britons are believed to have fled to Syria including a group of three schoolgirls from east London.

Mr Fraser said: ‘We have many young people wanting to join up with their “brothers” in IS. Let them bloody well go.
‘Why are we concerned in wasting our time and resources in assuring these people don’t go to join?
‘Instead let’s find out who wants to go and we can then spend public money in chartering our own planes to take them there. We don’t need these traitors in our beloved country.
‘They can hand over their British passports on the way out and say don’t ever try and come back.’

The Ukip candidate, who currently works as a chartered surveyor, said that the extremists ‘have one aim to convert or murder all “non-believers”.’

He added: ‘They don’t like our freedom, want to destroy our way of life and will not rest until they fly their flag over our shores.’

Mr Fraser’s comments came as Nigel Farage revealed the party’s pledge card, which includes saying no to the EU, controlling the country's borders, an extra £3 billion for the NHS, cuts in foreign aid spending and no tax on the minimum wage.


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