The Black NRA

[Econoline]

Yeah, I know...this probably should go in "Politics"--but it is from "Funny or Die":



Well, I laffed...

[TPFKA@W]

This response to that load of crap was infinitely better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnWHC7B ... EL_bzZRe-Q

[Lord Jim]

This response to that load of crap was infinitely better.

I don't agree with every word in this, but...



compared to that Silverman crap...

[TPFKA@W]

Showoff.

[Econoline]

Wow. That response indicates that Sarah Silverman's video went whooshing W A Y over Zo&Co.'s head.*

They they seem to be vaguely aware that it was supposed to be some sort of joke, but the whole point of the joke seems to have escaped into the stratosphere above them--as did the fact that it was aimed NOT at black people but at the white gun nuts who would probably shit an MRAP if they saw a young black male gun owner demonstrating his "open carry rights" in their local Walmart...



*ETA: Jim's and Bette's heads, too, apparently.
Edited to cross out the above line, for which I've apologized later in this thread. (It seemed more honest and less confusing than removing the line completely.)

[Lord Jim]

Aside from her appearances on Monk and her "I'm fucking Matt Damon" video, I'm hard put to think of another instance where Sarah Silverman was actually "funny"...

[Lord Jim]

Wow. That response indicates that Sarah Silverman's video went whooshing W A Y over Zo&Co.'s head.*

They they seem to be vaguely aware that it was supposed to be some sort of joke, but the whole point of the joke seems to have escaped into the stratosphere above them--as did the fact that it was aimed NOT at black people but at the white gun nuts who would probably shit an MRAP if they saw a young black male gun owner demonstrating his "open carry rights" in their local Walmart...



*ETA: Jim's and Bette's heads, too, apparently.

LOL

I'm sorry Econo, but their point seems to have gone "whooshing" over your head...

Watch it again...

[Econoline]

I watched it three times before I posted that earlier comment, and just watched it a fourth time, per your request. Since I've already been generous enough to explain what I thought was funny about the original video, perhaps you'll be so kind as to explain what you thought was funny about the response?

[Lord Jim]

Among other things, they're making a point about the Silverman video representing Hollywood white Liberal cluelessness, smugness, and condescension...(both towards blacks and towards whites that they consider to be their intellectual and social inferiors)

I think that's pretty obvious...

The fact that you don't see how the Silverman video could be offensive to black people, kinda, well, you know...



makes the point...

[TPFKA@W]

Offensive to the extreme....

[MajGenl.Meade]

You mean, to the extreme left or the extreme right? I can't see the video - it appears to have been taken down. Not that I want to. Who's Sarah Silverman anyway? I watched Monk and don't recall such a person

[Lord Jim]

I watched Monk and don't recall such a person

She played "Marci" an obsessive whack job, in two episodes...

The second episode is probably the more memorable one; she's obsessed with Monk, builds a shrine to him in her house, (complete with figurines of him, her and Natalie) has photo shopped pictures of them together, and even wears clothes he had thrown out...

It's actually pretty funny; it's probably one of my favorite episodes....



ETA:

the Silverman video in the OP hasn't been taken down; you just have to click on the little "YouTube" icon in the bottom right hand corner and watch it on the YouTube site...(I don't know why, but some people upload their videos that way)

[TPFKA@W]

I also find it personally offensive that because I have a different take on a POV it is implied that the true meaning AKA the progressive POV or the TeaBagger POV pr whichever oposing POV is present has somehow sailed over my head.

I have eyes just as you do. I have ears as well. I hear what they are saying in the second video and understand quite well the point they make. They would be offended as well at being told that since they have an alternate take on the first video its meaning must have sailed over their heads.

[Econoline]

I didn't see the original video as condescending or poking fun at blacks, let alone implying in any way that "young black men are too stupid to have guns" as the response video says. (The inclusion of the dorky white guy who says he has "more than 20 black friends" for whom he's going to buy guns might even be seen as poking fun at condescending white liberals--which, I think, is what the second video was trying to do???)

As I said before, the target of the satire is the (overwhelmingly white) gun culture which wants to buy more and more weapons--supposedly to protect themselves from a tyrannical government and its jackbooted thugs. Yet when the people actually getting killed by those "jackbooted thugs" turn out to be young black men, this same demographic seems to take the side of the "jackbooted thugs"--and rallies behind Cliven Bundy (who wants to tell them one more thing he knows about the Negro).

Okay, now that I've explained the point of the joke as I see it, it's your turn to tell me what's so HIGH-LARRY-US about the second video saying, for instance, that the NRA was founded by Republicans to help blacks protect themselves from Democrats (Pants on Fire!), or that Trayvon Martin got tea and skittles to mix with cough syrup so he could get high, or "I guess Frederick Douglass should've never been a marshal, 'cause he's black, and too responsible to have a gun!"

YMMV, but I didn't laugh at all at that video.

Enlighten me. Please.

[MajGenl.Meade]

Thanks for the tip, LJ - now I've watched them both and think I understand the motivation/point of each. And I'm with LJ and @W on this one. Isn't the point of the 2nd one that the first (satirizing the NRA using irony) is in fact a blatant disregard of actual truth and indicative of liberals co-opting blacks to deliver what is, in essence, an anti-black message?

What is the anti-black message in #1? It is that blacks with guns are dangerous and therefore the NRA is risking offending all the right wing gun nuts who naturally hate knee-grows. That's what I got from it anyway. The 2nd video seemed to be composed of people I'd like to have dinner with. They might object but....

PS oh, I do remember those two episodes, LJ. Just didn't pay attention to the actress' name

[Joe Guy]

I'm with Econoline on this one. The second video looks like an overreaction to the first video.

Sometimes humour is just meant to be humor...

[Lord Jim]

What is the anti-black message in #1? It is that blacks with guns are dangerous and therefore the NRA is risking offending all the right wing gun nuts who naturally hate knee-grows.

The other thing that's clearly offensive about the first video, (as is pointed out in the second) is that Silverman and Co. apparently think it's jolly good fun to make light of black gun violence when black-on-black gun violence (far more than black-on-white or white-on-black gun violence) is a tragic plague in many African-American communities.

Econo:

I didn't think the second video was "hilarious" (you may notice I used " " and " " not " ") so much as a poignant and spot on critique of the first video...

What I found "funny" (and frankly still do) is your apparent complete blindness as to why black people could find the first video offensive...

And also the fact that in the process of making clear that you didn't understand how that could be, you actually accused me and @W of being the "clueless ones"...

I found that component really hilarious...

(As though we were some how incapable of gleaning the obvious sophomoric and juvenile message that Silverman and Co. thought they were conveying...)

You also apparently think the folks in the second video were incapable of that too...

And I agree with @W; I'm sure they would find that insulting...

[TPFKA@W]

I didn't laugh at either video.

[Lord Jim]

I'm with Econoline on this one.

Well, then I know just the bar where you two should meet for drinks:

[Joe Guy]