A Disgraceful Day For The National News Media

[wesw]

not ok. necessary. like WW2.

[Joe Guy]

I'm sure that's not the first time that mother has hit her son. I'm not surprised that he is out on the streets in the middle of a riot. It's probably not much different for him than being at home.

Did you see The Wire? His mother is probably a crack ho with a live-in unemployed boyfriend that abused him when he was child. She's hitting him because he's wasting his time rioting while he is supposed to be out selling drugs to support her.

[Lord Jim]

His mother is probably a crack ho with a live-in unemployed boyfriend that abused him when he was child. She's hitting him because he's wasting his time rioting while he is supposed to be out selling drugs to support her.

I'm going to put that in the same category as Wes' "The ministers are conspiring with the gangs" theory on the likelihood scale....

I am cursed with the ability to see thru bullshit to the heart of matters.

We had another poster on an earlier board who believed that he suffered from the same "curse"...

His name was Steve...

Unfortunately the curse he really suffered from was the inability to distinguish whacko conspiracy theories from reality...

[oldr_n_wsr]

I wonder when CPS is going to visit that mother.

I wonder how many of the rioters are from the area? I think there are more than a few who head to these situations just to get these things going off on the wrong foot.


And still, no one knows what happened to the guy. Strange.

[wesw]

no, some radical ministers are with the nation of islam, nation is with the new black panthers, panthers are with the gangs. plausible deniability must be maintained.

[Lord Jim]

I'm quite astonished frankly, at the criticism I'm seeing from some posters of the mother in this video...

Those remarks in this thread are the only criticisms of her I have read or heard anywhere. Other than that I've seen nothing but universal praise for her, from blacks and whites, across the ideological spectrum.

She wanted to pull her teenaged son out of participating in a mob situation, and she wasn't going to take no for an answer. A situation where he was exposing himself to serious danger, arrest, and the possibility of screwing up the rest of his life. And she clearly wasn't doing any actual physical damage to him.

Does anybody really think that a patient, reasoned argument would have been effective in that situation?

Sometimes, first you have to get the mule's attention...

[Joe Guy]

Violence begets violence, Jim...

[wesw]

exactly the lesson she taught him. I especially liked the part where she tried to rip his mask off.

[wesw]

lets not neglect the good in the community. many black leaders (true leaders) have lined up in front of police positions, facing the crowds

[Lord Jim]

lets not neglect the good in the community. many black leaders (true leaders) have lined up in front of police positions, facing the crowds

Gee there must be an echo in here...

I could have sworn I already pointed that out...

(And whether you like it or not wes, some of those were local NOI types, I know this for a fact because I saw them.)

And here's another example of the good side of the community; hundreds turned out to help with the clean up:

Some Hopeful Images From Baltimore: Residents Uniting to Clean Up the City



After an evening of violent unrest, Baltimore residents emerged Tuesday morning to clean up after the destruction and prepare for what could be more chaos. On Monday, at least 15 police officers were injured and dozens of businesses were destroyed, as rioters clashed with law enforcement officials throughout most of the evening.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/04 ... clean-city

I don't recall seeing much of this sort of thing in Ferguson.

[wesw]

well, it bears repeating.

don t let the NOI types fool you. deception is in their playbook. you saw what happened to Malcolm x too.....

[Lord Jim]

And here's a tip:

Across the street from the burnt-out shell of the CVS pharmacy stands the Pennsylvania Avenue Branch of the Enoch Pratt Free Library. Melanie Diggs, the branch manager, was in the building when the protesters set fire to the pharmacy.

Diggs, who has worked as a public librarian for 20 years, decided to let her customers stay in the library while the looting and arson took place across the street. She told BuzzFeed News that some 30 people took refuge in the building.

If you should ever happen to find your self where a riot has broken out, head for nearest library...

It's the one location that the morons are absolutely certain not to loot...

You're safer then being in a police station...

[wesw]

sounds like a trip to the library is a good idea . then (italics) go to the police station that the library is safer than (italics)

sorry, could not resist

[liberty]

I'm quite astonished frankly, at the criticism I'm seeing from some posters of the mother in this video...

Those remarks in this thread are the only criticisms of her I have read or heard anywhere. Other than that I've seen nothing but universal praise for her, from blacks and whites, across the ideological spectrum.

She wanted to pull her teenaged son out of participating in a mob situation, and she wasn't going to take no for an answer. A situation where he was exposing himself to serious danger, arrest, and the possibility of screwing up the rest of his life. And she clearly wasn't doing any actual physical damage to him.

Does anybody really think that a patient, reasoned argument would have been effective in that situation?

Sometimes, first you have to get the mule's attention...

I agree with the words of my noble lord Jim.

And now my lord, may I have a new oxen to pull the plow and help plow the land of your fief; my wife is getting awful tried.

[Econoline]

White People Rioting For No Reason
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/11/white-people-rioting-for-no-reason.html



(Clicky linky above for more.)

[wesw]

"two wrong don t make right" said the mother of the teenager as she bitch slapped him all the way home.... funny on so many levels...

that s kinda like justifying the murder of Christians because of the crusades isn t it? which is a false narrative itself, if you don t include the muslim history of conquest before the crusades in the analogy.

[Lord Jim]

Baltimore quiets down as residents obey all-night curfew

The streets of Baltimore were eerily quiet Tuesday night into early Wednesday as residents obeyed an all-night curfew enforced by 3,000 police and National Guardsmen, a day after riots engulfed the city.

The 10 p.m. curfew got off to a not-so promising start as 200 protesters initially defied the warnings of police and pleas from activists to disperse.

Some people in the crowd threw water bottles or lay on the ground as a line of police behind riot shields hurled gas canisters and fired pepper balls to push the crowd back. Demonstrators picked up the canisters and hurled them back at officers, but the crowd would rapidly disperse and was just down to a few dozen people within minutes.

The clash came after a day of high tension but relative peace and calm in Baltimore, which was rocked by looting and widespread arson Monday in the city’s worst outbreak of rioting since 1968.

Police, political leaders and many residents condemned the violence and hundreds of volunteers showed up Tuesday to sweep the streets of glass and other debris.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/04/28/ba ... -violence/

[BoSoxGal]

Dr. King called riots "the language of the unheard."

At least the folks in Baltimore rioting over police brutality have a decent justification for their rioting - institutionalized racism and a city with a terrible history of police brutality, at least judging by the recent number of settlements over excessive use of force cases. http://data.baltimoresun.com/news/police-settlements/

White people who riot over winning sports championships have no excuse, yet somehow those stories don't end up making huge news when they happen.

[Big RR]

I wouldn't call it a justification BSG; I'd call it a reason, maybe even one that is understandable, but not one that justifies the action.

IMHO riots can spring up for a number of reason, and often they spread once started. I recall being part of a few antiwar demonstrations that degraded into violence in the 60s/70s, and although I too felt the urge to cause mayhem so we'd be heard, I think it detracted from the message and changed the story into one of rabble-rousers (and there were some there just for that--indeed, it's one of the things that drove me away from the organized antiwar movement). My guess is something similar happened here at first, and now there are a bunch of jerks seeking to capitalize on it and raise hell. There are a lot of really good facts and points here that should be heard, but the violence is drowning them out.

Not that I don't think violence has a place as a last resort in some cases (that is the essence of revolution), but lighting cars on fire and looting is not that.

[liberty]

White People Rioting For No Reason
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/11/white-people-rioting-for-no-reason.html



(Clicky linky above for more.)

Thugs they are and as thugs they should be treated; no one regardless of race religion or social status has the right to destroy the property of others. If one’s car is destroyed in a riot the insurance company does not have to pay and the victim is still on the hook to the lean holder. Can any of you good people understand what that could mean to a poor or working class family just getting by. A person should have the undisputed right to protect his property from destruction by thugs, even with deadly force.