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wesw, if I cared all that much about your opinion, I'd demand that you show me all these allegedly contradictory positions I take here - however I don't care, and I know you can't, because I've been pretty stridently barking the same shit for years before you showed up.

Being nasty to me and saying I have an enormous ego is rich - my ego is no bigger than Lord Jim's, as he constantly reiterates his positions on matters and always sets them forth as though they were proclamations from on high.

Is it simply that you are sexist, and take the position that a woman with equally strong opinions is a bitch? :roll:

Here's a hint for you: this is an internet DEBATE forum and folks who post at such places are usually OPINIONATED. I am and I make no bones about that; I think most of the other folks who post here are pretty darned opinionated, too.

eta: I believe my own words, wesw - I live them to the letter. I don't know how you, who have never met me and have 'known' me for just a few months on the interwebs, could possibly make such a claim or take such a position - but I'll just consider how you have lashed out at other posters here from the first week you got here and leave it at that.
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On an entirely different note, I am THRILLED to hear that the State's Attorney has charged the police who allegedly murdered Freddy Gray (and/or were negligent in failing to render aid), as any prosecutor or former prosecutor knows how incredibly hard it is to take such a stand against law enforcement - it will definitely come back to bite them on their other cases.

Marilyn Mosby, you deserve more of these than I can type:

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May Freddy Gray's family and the citizens of Baltimore find some peace in this announcement.
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Meet Marilyn Mosby, the Woman Overseeing the Freddie Gray Investigation
BY ELIZABETH CHUCK

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Baltimore's state's attorney probably did not expect to be thrust into the national spotlight during her fourth month on the job. And yet Marilyn Mosby — the youngest top prosecutor of any major city in America — now finds herself playing a key role in a local drama that has gripped the country.

The 35-year-old is tasked with determining whether charges are warranted in the controversial death of Freddie Gray, the 25-year-old black man who died after suffering a spinal cord injury in police custody. Gray's death has inspired protests in Baltimore and nationwide.

On Thursday, the Baltimore police commissioner announced the department had handed confidential information on how Gray died over to prosecutors. The Justice Department is working on its own independent investigation.

Mosby did not return a call from NBC News requesting comment, but her office confirmed it had received the police department's investigative file.

"However, the results of their investigation is not new to us," the office said in a statement. " We have been briefed regularly throughout their process while simultaneously conducting our own independent investigation into the death of Freddie Gray. ... We ask for the public to remain patient and peaceful and to trust the process of the justice system."

Mosby is a Democrat who comes from a long line of police officers — but she has been vocal about holding cops accountable in the past.

"It was important to have somebody who was willing to look at it from both sides, and Marilyn Mosby fit the bill."

"She has a natural affinity for police officers and law enforcement types, and at the same time, she is aware of the incredible number of complaints against the Baltimore City police department," said Richard Woods, a Baltimore-based attorney whose practice is primarily criminal defense work.

Woods has known Mosby for years and supported her in her campaign for state's attorney. "It was important to have somebody who was willing to look at it from both sides, and Marilyn Mosby fit the bill."

Her interest in the justice system stemmed from tragedy: When she was growing up in inner-city Boston, her 17-year-old cousin was mistaken for a drug dealer and killed outside her home by another 17-year-old.

The former insurance company attorney is leading an independent investigation of the officers involved in Gray's death on April 19. She has not said when she might decide if she will pursue charges.

She has spoken out against police officers numerous times. During her campaign for state's attorney, in response to a Baltimore Sun investigation of allegations of police beatings, she said: "Police brutality is completely inexcusable. I'm going to apply justice fairly, even to those who wear a badge."

Mosby is a mother of two daughters who met her future husband while she was studying political science at the historically black Tuskegee University in Alabama. She was the first in her family to graduate from college, was raised by a single mother, and has law enforcement in her blood.

"My grandfather, my uncles, my mother, my father — I have five generations of police officers. I know that the majority of police officers are really hard-working officers who are risking their lives day in and day out, but those really bad ones who go rogue do a disservice to the officers who are risking their lives and taking time away from their families," she told Baltimore Magazine in January, when she started her tenure as state's attorney.

Her surprise win last November is her first stint as an elected official. She bested incumbent Gregg Bernstein by portraying herself as a crime crusader, determined to keep repeat offenders off the streets.

"People who have zero regard for human life do not deserve to live among the residents of the greatest city in the world," she said in a primary victory speech.

Mosby's first stint in the Baltimore City State's Attorney's Office came after she graduated from Boston College Law School. She served first as assistant state's attorney and then prosecuted some of the worst felonies in Maryland in the general trial division.

She left to go work as field counsel for Liberty Mutual Insurance for three years. In 2013 and 2014, she was named as one of the Baltimore Sun's 50 Women to Watch.

Her husband, Nick Mosby, is a Baltimore city councilman who has spoken out about the riots that Gray's death has prompted.

"This is bigger than Freddie Gray," he said in an interview with Fox News on Monday night. "This is about the socioeconomics of poor urban America." The rioters were exhibiting "decades-old anger and frustration for a system that's failed them," he added.

When she was sworn in in January, Mosby promised to fix the justice system.

"As a black woman who understands just how much the criminal justice system disproportionately affects communities of color, I will seek justice on your behalf," she said.

It hasn't all been praise for Mosby. She's been criticized for being too inexperienced for the role she was elected to, but Woods, the Baltimore attorney, said her accomplishments far outweigh her young age.

"I think she's a superb person. And when a defense lawyer says that about a prosecutor, you can believe it."
She's a fellow Masshole - no wonder she's so RIGHT! ;)

I highlighted that last sentence because it's just so true - one of the things I'm proudest of is the respect I earned from most all of my opposing counsel while I was a prosecutor. It's also why I have so many colleagues now willing to refer cases to me and help me as I navigate the challenges of private practice.
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If you didn't see the press conference, here it is:

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/marilyn-mosb ... eddie-gray
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he constantly reiterates his positions on matters and always sets them forth as though they were proclamations from on high.
Gee, you say that like it's a bad thing... 8-)

I think it's also very helpful that Mosby has this background:
My grandfather, my uncles, my mother, my father — I have five generations of police officers.
And also that this:
She bested incumbent Gregg Bernstein by portraying herself as a crime crusader, determined to keep repeat offenders off the streets.

"People who have zero regard for human life do not deserve to live among the residents of the greatest city in the world," she said in a primary victory speech.
Those factors really enhance her credibility, and make it pretty much impossible for any fair-minded person to simply dismiss her as some sort of lefty cop-hating bleeding heart on an anti-police crusade....
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I listened to it live on radio and boy, that was a fantastic job! Credit all around to law enforcement as it should be.
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gee, I never even considered calling you a bitch.

but I bet your eyes are brown or soon will be, 'cause you are full of crap.

I believe full of crap applies equally to both sexes.

I feel like a fish....

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wesw wrote:
that too, was a joke.

I am glad you changed your signature. it was confusing me. first it said something about being humble. then, the next line said something about being a super genius, and the difficulty of dealing with less intelligent people. then , the last one said something about not liking mean people.

each line seeming to contradict the previous line. maybe it was a joke?

No, not a joke. I'm capable of holding contradictory positions, being a fairly complex person.

Ever heard of Walt Whitman?

Anyway, it's possible to possess humility whilst also being smarter than average and occasionally annoyed by those who aren't and yes, always, MEAN PEOPLE SUCK.
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well I don t have the quote function figured out but.... close enough

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:roll:
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he constantly reiterates his positions on matters
Well, there's a reason for that...

Some folks hereabouts are slow learners...

And being the sort of patient and compassionate person that I am, I believe in providing multiple opportunities for education... 8-)
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Lord Jim wrote:
he constantly reiterates his positions on matters
Well, there's a reason for that...

Some folks hereabouts are slow learners...
You can say that again!.... :mrgreen:

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You can say that again!.... :mrgreen:
Yuck it up funny boy....

Time for another Ralph Kramden Moment:



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....ok, new York times reported that crips and bloods united to protect black owned businesses, while directing looters to Chinese and arab owned businesses

....new black panther leader put out very troubling statement about killing

...Sharpton showed up and big leagued Baltimore mayor as if she was a child under his control

...nothing yet on Nation of Islam, they are pretty tight lipped.....


...stay tuned dear readers....

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I just watched the press conference again with a defense bar colleague who was waiting for a jury verdict; we both remarked that today may be noteworthy in that we may have witnessed the emergence on the national stage of a future attorney general . . . or more.

2043 whites will become the minority race in the USA. The scales of justice are beginning to balance out!
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What a country, who in their right mind would live there voluntarily?
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oh oh my brown eyed girl....

I remember when, she used to sing...

sha la la la , la la la la baby, shed used sing.....

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Gob wrote:What a country, who in their right mind would live there voluntarily?
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Well, he *IS* (and always has been) a master baiter... :lol:
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It's not as though the UK or OZ are post-racial societies, puh-leeeez! :roll:
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