Funding Plan B

[Lord Jim]

I vote for Gwenhwyvar!

Gwenhwyvar for Ethical Wall!

We should have a vote this coming Tuesday.

Oh damn Joe, you beat me to it...

I was going to suggest Steve.....

[Gob]

Actually it doesn't have to go into anyones bank account other than the hosting company, you can set up a link which allows people to donate via paypal directly to your hosting account.

Well that's that problem sorted then.

I'll look to moving our website somewhere smaller and cheaper, and then we can have a funding rally to take the Plan B into group ownership.

[rubato]

Let me know what you wanna do.

I sent cash to Garelb but pay pal is ok too.

Make uppa you mind.

yrs,
rubato

[Guinevere]

How about a compromise. Instead of sending moneydirectly to the company -- which might end up with overpayments, and who knows how they will be accounted for -- why not create a paypal account, and then a thread here to list each time there is a deposit or an expense. You don't list the name of the contributor, just that money was received. You can also include the first and last letters of the email account and part after the @, so people can confirm their contributions have been received. That way we all see the contributions and expenses, and can track the balance.

For example:

$10.00 was received on 11/5/10 from g--k@gmail.com Balance = $55.00
$30.00 paid for hosting fee on 12/1/10 Balance = $25.00

[@meric@nwom@n]

Wouldn't over-payments simply be used for the future payments of the site?

Other places I have posted have used the system without trouble.

[Lord Jim]

Okay, let's apply a little common sense here...

If all that is being asked from anybody is 10 bucks....(or 20 bucks)

Does anybody really think that Strop is going to run off to Vegas with that moolah?

I trust the folks who set up this place completely, and I'm more than happy to send $20 to their PayPal account, (an additional $20 if he removes all Leonard Cohen "music" from his website)

[Crackpot]

You say how trustworty someone is and then you say you're going to attempt to bribe them?

[Guinevere]

I don't have any trouble sending money directly to a paypal account, nor do I need the transparency or accounting -- but it was suggested, so I suggested a method which might work, without making it too complex.

I don't like the idea of sending money directly to the hosting company -- who knows how much overage there would be, how well it would be accounted for, etc. I'd rather have any extra in a fund that could be drawn on later by the admins.

[@meric@nwom@n]

I am fairly certain that using paypal is not just some black hole that you pay into, doubtless there is some form of accounting going on that is reportable to someone. Possibly the keeper of the keys will be able to download totals and give us a heads up to stop donating.

[oldr_n_wsr]

I would rather trust Gob and Hen than some unknown entity like the hosting company. No need to post any info in the thread, Gob/Hen can PM the donator directly so they know thir money was received. But a thread alerting people to either donate or not donate is a good idea.

[Guinevere]

I am fairly certain that using paypal is not just some black hole that you pay into, doubtless there is some form of accounting going on that is reportable to someone. Possibly the keeper of the keys will be able to download totals and give us a heads up to stop donating.

Of course I didn't say PayPal was a black hole. What, are you channeling editec now?

[@meric@nwom@n]

I never said that you said it was a black hole, are you channeling Steve now?

[Gob]

Okay, let's apply a little common sense here...

If all that is being asked from anybody is 10 bucks....(or 20 bucks)

Does anybody really think that Strop is going to run off to Vegas with that moolah?

I trust the folks who set up this place completely, and I'm more than happy to send $20 to their PayPal account, (an additional $20 if he removes all Leonard Cohen "music" from his website)

Thanks for that Jim, I always believed we have the trust of the membership here, but confirmation is nice.

I hope you can also trust us not to go off the rails, like Gwen did, and start refusing to pass on the financial state of the boards or any other information require/requested by anyone involved.

Oh, but I'm heartbroken that you have spent so little time at my site so as to believe that the music there is anything other than original, (and shite).

Mr Cohen only makes good music..

[Lord Jim]

Oh, but I'm heartbroken that you have spent so little time at my site so as to believe that the music there is anything other than original, (and shite).

Strop I'm sorry to confess, but once again I lost the link to your site...

If you PM it to me again I promise this time I'll bookmark it....

[Andrew D]

I don't entirely understand the responses to my previous posting (neither Gwenhwyvar nor Steve was a person I had in mind to undertake the receipt-and-expenditure-of-contributions function), but I will say this: I take strenuous exception to even the slightest hint that I would behave unethically with respect to the funding of Plan B (or with respect to the funding of anything else or with respect to anything involving handling funds that belong to others).

Many of you here may not much like me. And I may have given some of you reason not to like me. So be it.

But if any funds for Plan B (or anything else other than my own money) were committed to my care, I would handle them with scrupulous fastidiousness. In this case, I would commit them to the care of someone with whom I would trust -- and, in fact, have on occasion trusted -- my life.

If something somehow went wrong, and some funds were to go missing (which I very much doubt, but in our little universe, nothing is absolutely certain), I would unhesitatingly make them up out of my own assets.

I would set things up such that, to the extent possible, I would not know who had or had not contributed what. And if I did learn who had contributed what, I would keep that knowledge to myself, just as I keep my clients' confidences to myself.

I have posted here many things about legal issues. But search as you might, except for things that are matters of public record, you will not find here any disclosure by me of any confidential information entrusted to me.

Think what you will about lawyers in general or me in particular. But suggesting that I would violate my personal and professional integrity by disclosing (unless I were compelled by force of law to do so) confidential information is simply beyond the pale.

Were this a different century, I would demand satisfaction on the field of honor.

[Guinevere]

Andrew I don't think anyone was impending your honor or integrity. I know I wasn't.

[Joe Guy]

I don't entirely understand the responses to my previous posting (neither Gwenhwyvar nor Steve was a person I had in mind to undertake the receipt-and-expenditure-of-contributions function), but I will say this: I take strenuous exception to even the slightest hint that I would behave unethically with respect to the funding of Plan B (or with respect to the funding of anything else or with respect to anything involving handling funds that belong to others).

I wrote what I did because you wrote the following - "How about someone who has never posted here and has no desire to post here?"

Gwenhwyvar had written over at CSB that she has never come here to read or write anything.

I wasn't commenting on your trustworthiness. But now I will.

I would easily trust you to handle my money if you were in any way involved in the transactions of funding for this BBS.

[loCAtek]

AndrewD, most of what was written about Gwen and ~Steve was done in jest; absolutely you're more trustworthy than they. Personal issues aside, I'm confidant of that.