Given some of the choices you're facing oldr, I'd consider writing in Lindsey Lohan, Carrot Top, and Ben Affleck....Given the choicees I have in many races this year, I think I am writing my own name in.
Well played, Gov. Moonbeam!
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WTF? Are you serious? ? ? ?Lord Jim wrote:I should of have thought that was self explanatory....I know I'm going to regret this, but what is a "write in" candidate?
A "write in" candidate, is a candidate who's name one must "write on" the ballot, as opposed to a candidate who's name is printed on the ballot...
This can be more difficult or less difficult depending on how the ballot is constructed....
In some states there is a "write in" space where one can simply put a sticker with the 'write in" candidates name....
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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what issue do you have with it?
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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I just don't understand it at all, why would a potential candidate not already be on the ballot?
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Late filing, unofficial candidate.. those are the big ones. Some are defeated primary candidates running as independents after some serious primary voter remorse (like Murkowski) some are cranks usually they pull so little of the vote that they aren't even counted (as they have to be done by and and there aren't enough voted to mark them as anything else than "other".
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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Still seems totally mad to me.
You either stand for election, and get your name on the ballot, or you don't.
You either stand for election, and get your name on the ballot, or you don't.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Good thing it's available...Jim McKenna ran a write-in primary campaign for Attorney General in Massachusetts. To get on the general election ballot and challenge Martha Coakley, he needed 10,000 votes. He got an eye-popping 27,711 votes, despite a challenger (Guy Carbone) who ALSO got over 10,000 votes.
And I really hope he manages to defeat "Marcia" Coakley, who is best known for bungling a slam-dunk Senate race and getting Scott Brown elected.
And I really hope he manages to defeat "Marcia" Coakley, who is best known for bungling a slam-dunk Senate race and getting Scott Brown elected.
Treat Gaza like Carthage.
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Gobster:
Illustration:
An incumbent Democrat candidate is favored by the majority of voters among the general electorate (his policies generally appeal to a majority), but in the Democrat primary, he faces someone who is true to the party line and is defeated.
The incumbent has enough support among the Republicans which, when added to the support he retains from a minority of Democrats, is sufficient (or so he believes) to win in the general election. So he runs as a "write-in." There are certain filings to be made, and it is not always possible, but it not that unusual a situation.
Illustration:
An incumbent Democrat candidate is favored by the majority of voters among the general electorate (his policies generally appeal to a majority), but in the Democrat primary, he faces someone who is true to the party line and is defeated.
The incumbent has enough support among the Republicans which, when added to the support he retains from a minority of Democrats, is sufficient (or so he believes) to win in the general election. So he runs as a "write-in." There are certain filings to be made, and it is not always possible, but it not that unusual a situation.
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I think the question implicit in Gob's puzzlement, is why could not said candidate simply register to run as a non-affiliated candidate and get his/her name on the ballot that way?
"The dildo of consequence rarely comes lubed." -- Eileen Rose
"Colonialism is not 'winning' - it's an unsustainable model. Like your hairline." -- Candace Linklater
"Colonialism is not 'winning' - it's an unsustainable model. Like your hairline." -- Candace Linklater
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They can but there are deadlines and other regulations (some fair some unfair) to get on a ballot.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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Yep, nailed it.Scooter wrote:I think the question implicit in Gob's puzzlement, is why could not said candidate simply register to run as a non-affiliated candidate and get his/her name on the ballot that way?
Why the hell all this complexity? You register as a candidate before the closure date, having fullfilled the criterior, and you stand.
Can I stand as a candidate in a general election?
You can stand as a candidate in the general election if you are 18 years old or over, and either a British citizen, a citizen of the Republic of Ireland, or a citizen of a Commonwealth country who does not require leave to enter or remain in the UK, or who has indefinite leave to remain in the UK. Certain people may not stand as candidates, such as members of the police forces, members of the armed forces, serving civil servants or judges, certain convicted prisoners or those declared to be bankrupt. The Electoral Commission offers guidance to anyone wishing to stand as a candidate in a UK election.
All you wanted to know, and more, about standing for election in the UK parliament. (pdf)
Become an Aussie MP for fun and profit.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to spam every thread with this:
THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES!!!!!!
THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES!!!!!!
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Gobster:
Running as an independent is almost always "Plan B" for an incumbent. If one has been elected previously as a member of a particular party, it is impolitic in the extreme to NOT participate in that party's primary election as Plan A. Then, after being defeated in the primary, one looks at other options.
Again, if often happens that a candidate - even an incumbent - is not "pure" enough for the party's faithful voters - the ones who show up for the primaries - but fine with the general electorate. Keep in mind that most primary elections do not get anywhere near the participation as general elections. The ones who steadfastly vote in the primaries are the ones who most closely associate themselves with the core of the party's philosophies. The candidates who appeal to that core are not necessarily the best candidates from that side of the political spectrum in a general election.
Running as an independent is almost always "Plan B" for an incumbent. If one has been elected previously as a member of a particular party, it is impolitic in the extreme to NOT participate in that party's primary election as Plan A. Then, after being defeated in the primary, one looks at other options.
Again, if often happens that a candidate - even an incumbent - is not "pure" enough for the party's faithful voters - the ones who show up for the primaries - but fine with the general electorate. Keep in mind that most primary elections do not get anywhere near the participation as general elections. The ones who steadfastly vote in the primaries are the ones who most closely associate themselves with the core of the party's philosophies. The candidates who appeal to that core are not necessarily the best candidates from that side of the political spectrum in a general election.
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All well and good dgs, but why can they not get all this sorted out in time for anyone who wants to be a candidate to get their name on the ballot paper.
It seems to me the US electoral system goes out of its way to be as unwieldy, un-user friendly, expensive and complex as it can, a veritable mouse designed by a committee.
No wonder you have such a low level of participation.
It seems to me the US electoral system goes out of its way to be as unwieldy, un-user friendly, expensive and complex as it can, a veritable mouse designed by a committee.
No wonder you have such a low level of participation.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Much as I hate to say it, dgs49 has described it accurately.Gob wrote:Yep, nailed it.Scooter wrote:I think the question implicit in Gob's puzzlement, is why could not said candidate simply register to run as a non-affiliated candidate and get his/her name on the ballot that way?
Why the hell all this complexity? You register as a candidate before the closure date, having fullfilled the criterior, and you stand.
The parties have their primary elections, in which each party chooses who is going to be that party's canddiate. Candidate A wins the left-wing party's primary election and becomes the left-wing party's (printed on the ballot) candidate. Candidate C wins the right-wing party's primary election and becomes the right-wing party's (printed on the ballot) candidate. Candidate B doesn't win either party's primary, but she gets enough votes among left- and right-wingers so that she thinks she can win a straight-up, everyone-votes election against Candidate A and Candidate C.
Candidate B runs in the general election against Candidate A and Candidate C. But Candidate A is printed on the ballot as the nominee of the left-wing party, and Candidate C is printed on the ballot as the nominee of the right-wing party. So Candidate B is not printed on the ballot at all. But she believes that she can will the general election. What does she do? She puts herself up as a write-in candidate, and she hopes that she will get more votes than will Candidate A or Candidate C.
Reason is valuable only when it performs against the wordless physical background of the universe.
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The question is why can't Candidate B get her name on the ballot as an unaffiliated candidate? Is getting on the ballot contingent on being the candidate of a recognized party? Does the deadline for getting on the ballot follow so closely on the primary that it is physically impossible to complete the necessary paperwork and deliver it to the appropriate authorities on time? Does not having been selected as a candidate through a primary impose some onerous condition on Candidate B to get on the ballot that makes it difficult/impossible to do so?
"The dildo of consequence rarely comes lubed." -- Eileen Rose
"Colonialism is not 'winning' - it's an unsustainable model. Like your hairline." -- Candace Linklater
"Colonialism is not 'winning' - it's an unsustainable model. Like your hairline." -- Candace Linklater
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What I think you're having trouble with here Strop, is again understanding the fact that we have 50 different sets of rules rather than a single standard....
In some states, depending (yet another argument against late primaries; like the one in Alaska) on the primary schedule, it's possible for a candidate who loses a major party primary to get on the ballot as an independent by getting x number of signatures....because they still have time to meet the filing deadline....
This is what Joe Lieberman was able to do in Connecticut in 2006....
Personally I'm disappointed that Mike Castle didn't decide to run as a write in; given the lead he had over McAdams, I think he would have had a very good shot....
I certainly would have voted for him.
In some states, depending (yet another argument against late primaries; like the one in Alaska) on the primary schedule, it's possible for a candidate who loses a major party primary to get on the ballot as an independent by getting x number of signatures....because they still have time to meet the filing deadline....
This is what Joe Lieberman was able to do in Connecticut in 2006....
Personally I'm disappointed that Mike Castle didn't decide to run as a write in; given the lead he had over McAdams, I think he would have had a very good shot....
I certainly would have voted for him.
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Bout time you got yourselves sorted out then...Lord Jim wrote:What I think you're having trouble with here Strop, is again understanding the fact that we have 50 different sets of rules rather than a single standard....
In some states, depending (yet another argument against late primaries; like the one in Alaska) on the primary schedule, it's possible for a candidate who loses a major party primary to get on the ballot as an independent by getting x number of signatures....because they still have time to meet the filing deadline....
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Shows what you know. Martha crushed McKenna -- 2:1. I think she may be back in 2012 to take on Brown again.Jarlaxle wrote:Good thing it's available...Jim McKenna ran a write-in primary campaign for Attorney General in Massachusetts. To get on the general election ballot and challenge Martha Coakley, he needed 10,000 votes. He got an eye-popping 27,711 votes, despite a challenger (Guy Carbone) who ALSO got over 10,000 votes.
And I really hope he manages to defeat "Marcia" Coakley, who is best known for bungling a slam-dunk Senate race and getting Scott Brown elected.
“I ask no favor for my sex. All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks.” ~ Ruth Bader Ginsburg, paraphrasing Sarah Moore Grimké
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talk about not learning your lessonGuinevere wrote:Shows what you know. Martha crushed McKenna -- 2:1. I think she may be back in 2012 to take on Brown again.Jarlaxle wrote:Good thing it's available...Jim McKenna ran a write-in primary campaign for Attorney General in Massachusetts. To get on the general election ballot and challenge Martha Coakley, he needed 10,000 votes. He got an eye-popping 27,711 votes, despite a challenger (Guy Carbone) who ALSO got over 10,000 votes.
And I really hope he manages to defeat "Marcia" Coakley, who is best known for bungling a slam-dunk Senate race and getting Scott Brown elected.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.