They live among us

[Gob]

Cancer cells are well known for their ideology Jim, it's written in their manifesto, see the bottom of the gin bottle for details.

[Econoline]

I caught the reference to the well-known Edward Abbey quote right away, but I'll be damned if I can make head or tails out of the rest of that post...

[Gob]

He often makes that mistake, thinking if he quotes someone else he'll sound erudite.

[Guinevere]

I'm also an Edward Abbey fan. Pretty sure Jim is not and Gob probably would be, if he knew who he was, so they are somewhat excused for missing the reference.

I had an boyfriend way way back who was a monkey-wrencher at heart, and who was the one who turned me on to Abbey. I found his fiction sexist, and Abbey never had terribly positive relationships with women (plus something like 5 wives). But his non-fiction writing is very very good.

[Guinevere]

He often makes that mistake, thinking if he quotes someone else he'll sound erudite.

Oh he's an Abbey kind of guy, mostly. I don't think it was a mistake.

[Gob]

I think that he extended a poor metaphor too far;

A social order based on the ideology of a cancer cell has a hard time telling its children why they should embrace love and not death.

and as of yet no one has been able to justify or clarify which "social order" the resident idiot refers to, or how it relates to home grown jihadi.

[Lord Jim]

I wasn't familiar with that quote, (frankly I don't feel that I've been missing much) but as is usually the case, understanding what rube was attempting to say doesn't make his "point" any less idiotic...

[wesw]

we were all too stupid and uneducated to kill before the internet....

we were war and crime free. we were a peaceful species. whitey ruined it all

...and he calls us bigots....

[Lord Jim]

Teen accused of being ISIS recruiter pleads guilty

Alexandria, Virginia (CNN)Ali Shukri Amin, from Alexandria, Virginia, pleaded guilty Thursday in a federal court to providing material support to ISIS and faces up to 15 years in prison when he is sentenced Aug. 28.

The 17-year-old was accused of helping, Reza Niknejad, 18, who officials believe went on to join ISIS, travel to Syria, a law enforcement source said in March. The teen was also accused of passing messages between ISIS contacts.

Amin appearing before the judge in a blue jail jumpsuit only responded "guilty sir" to the judge when asked to give his plea and "no sir" when asked if he is innocent in any way to the charges he is facing.

Amin admitted in a statement of fact as part of the plea agreement to using the twitter handle @Amreekiwitness to "provide advice and encouragement to ISIL and its supporters," according to a Department of Justice press release.

Additionally, Amin taught followers how to use bitcoin to covertly send funds to the terror group.

Social media has been widely utilized by the terror organization for recruiting and propaganda purposes, but the U.S. has also used the various mediums, like Twitter, to hone in on foreign targets.

"Around the nation, we are seeing ISIL use social media to reach out from the other side of the world," Assistant Attorney General Carlin said. "Their messages are reaching America in an attempt to radicalize, recruit and incite our youth and others to support ISIL's violent causes."

RELATED: Virginia teen accused of being ISIS recruiter

Niknejad was also charged with conspiring to provide material support to terrorists, conspiring to provide material support to ISIS and conspiring to kill and injure people abroad in the Eastern District Court of Virginia on Wednesday.

Investigators spent more than a month watching the teen before he was arrested, the Washington Post reported at the time citing officials and neighbors.

"Today's guilty plea demonstrates that those who use social media as a tool to provide support and resources to ISIL will be identified and prosecuted with no less vigilance than those who travel to take up arms with ISIL," said U.S. Attorney Dana J. Boente.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/11/politics/ ... ds-guilty/

[Big RR]

I still think the best thing to do with these people who want to fight for ISIS is to let them go on the condition that they resign their citizenship or immigrant status and not return (absent any compelling circumstances like being exposed to government secrets they could take with them). A few more untrained fighters won't tip any scales, and once they see what they are really fighting for I'll bet a lot would be begging to come back. That will be punishment enough.

Why pay to house and feed them for years--the threat of letting them leave is minimal compared with this cost.

[Gob]

I still think the best thing to do with these people who want to fight for ISIS is to let them go on the condition that they resign their citizenship or immigrant status and not return (absent any compelling circumstances like being exposed to government secrets they could take with them). A few more untrained fighters won't tip any scales, and once they see what they are really fighting for I'll bet a lot would be begging to come back. That will be punishment enough.

Why pay to house and feed them for years--the threat of letting them leave is minimal compared with this cost.

Fully agree!

We should pay their fucking fares out there too if they want

[wesw]

let em go...

[Gob]

A West Yorkshire teenager is believed to have become Britain's youngest ever suicide bomber after reportedly blowing himself up in Iraq.



Talha Asmal, 17, was one of four suicide bombers who attacked forces near an oil refinery south of Baiji. Social media reports linked to Islamic State (IS) said Asmal, going by the name of Abu Yusuf al-Britani, had taken part in the attack. His family said they were "devastated" at the news. Asmal, from Dewsbury, would be Britain's youngest known suicide bomber. Another West Yorkshire teenager, Hasib Hussein, was almost 19 when he blew himself up on a London bus in the 7 July 2005 attacks.

A statement issued by Asmal's family said: "Talha was a loving, kind, caring and affable teenager. "He never harboured any ill will against anybody nor did he ever exhibit any violent, extreme or radical views of any kind. "Talha's tender years and naivety were it seems however exploited by persons unknown who, hiding behind the anonymity of the world wide web, targeted and befriended Talha and engaged in a process of deliberate and calculated grooming of him. "Whilst there it appears that Talha fell under the spell of individuals who continued to prey on his innocence and vulnerability to the point where if the press reports are accurate he was ordered to his death by so-called Isis handlers and leaders too cowardly to do their own dirty work.

"We are all naturally utterly devastated and heartbroken by the unspeakable tragedy that now appears to have befallen us." Shahid Malik, the former MP for Dewsbury and a family friend of the Asmals, said: "It is disturbing to see how relaxed he looks in the Isis photographs allegedly taken just prior to his suicide mission. "He looks at peace. It's like he's ready to go and meet his maker. This is a clear indication of just how successful the evil Isis [also known as IS] groomers have been in poisoning and brainwashing Talha and kids like him."

[Joe Guy]

Kids blow up much too early nowadays....

[Gob]

You're a bad man Joe Guy

[Long Run]

Very bad.

[Gob]

Three sisters from Bradford are feared to have travelled to Syria with their nine children after going on a pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia.



The sisters and their children, aged between three and 15, were due back in the UK on Thursday, Khan Solicitors said on behalf of the family. Ten are thought to have boarded a flight to Istanbul in Turkey on 9 June. Lawyer Balaal Khan confirmed concerns about them "travelling to Syria". West Yorkshire Police is investigating.

There has been no contact since 9 June from mother-of-two Khadija Dawood, 30, mother-of-five Sugra Dawood, 34, and mother-of-two Zohra Dawood, 33, after they left Medina in Saudi Arabia. Their mobile telephones have not been active and their social media profiles have not been updated since then.

[Gob]

The mother of a British man killed while fighting for Islamist militant group al-Shabab in Kenya has told the BBC her "whole world has fallen apart".

Sally Evans, from Buckinghamshire, said a journalist had phoned to tell them Muslim convert Thomas, 25, had died. Her other son Michael said that when he looked on Twitter, the first thing he found was a picture of Thomas's body. "We remember him as being my brother, your son," he told the BBC. "But to everyone else he's just a terrorist." Kenyan officials have confirmed that Thomas Evans was killed on Sunday when al-Shabab fighters attacked a military base in the north of the country.



Militants armed with AK47s and grenades raided the base in Lamu County, close to the Somali border, and then stormed a nearby village. Eleven gunmen were killed in total and two Kenyan soldiers also died.

Evans, who had changed his name to Abdul Hakim, contacted his family in 2012 to say he had travelled to Somalia to join the militant group. At least 50 British citizens are believed to have joined al-Shabab, an al-Qaeda affiliate based in Somalia, which has been behind a series of high-profile attacks in Kenya and Somalia. Ms Evans, from Wooburn Green, said she would remember her son as "the little boy who had a bright future before he went down the path he went down".

She said he had met "some people with some very twisted, warped ideas of Islam" in the local area to begin with, and was later influenced by online material.

[Gob]

Only in batty Britain...

The three Bradford sisters feared to have joined Islamic State in Syria are still able to claim hundreds of pounds in benefits from British taxpayers, it has been reported.

Khadija, 30, Zohra, 33, and 34-year-old Sugra Dawood – who along with their nine children are believed to be in the clutches of the terrorist group – are also said to have used Income Support and Child Tax Credits to fund their trip.

It is believed the sisters can still draw the cash from ATMs or get their ISIS handlers to travel into Turkey for it. The Government is now probing the claims.

Now it has emerged the women still get a total of £625.28 a month in child benefit payments, according to the Sun. Sugra, as a mother of five, gets £327.16, while Zohra and Khadija get £149.06 each for both having two children.

A community leader in Bradford, West Yorkshire, told Ben Griffiths at the Sun: 'They've used taxpayers' money to join these barbarians. 'It should be cut off now. Let IS pay for them.'

A spokesman for the Department for Work and Pensions said benefits only ceased if there was firm evidence people were living abroad.

The parents of the women have said they do not support their actions and pleaded with others not to make a similar journey.

In a statement issued through police, the women's parents and other family members said: 'We do not support the actions of the sisters leaving their husbands and families in the UK and of taking their children into a war zone where life is not safe to join any group.

A terror suspect who won a legal bid to take off his tag is accused of fundraising for an Islamist group that slaughtered Britons.

The row over the human rights ruling deepened last night as more details emerged of his extremist background.

Officials fear it will now be harder for police and MI5 to monitor the hate preacher, who has breached his T-Pim control order at least 11 times.

The Daily Mail revealed on Saturday how the High Court had ruled that the tag – a condition of his T-Pim – was making him delusional because he believed MI5 had put a bomb inside it.

A judge said this was a breach of Article 3 of Labour’s Human Rights Act, prohibiting torture, and that the tag must be cut off.

It means the security services will no longer automatically know when the fanatic is home.

Court papers reveal that even while wearing the tag the imam, who supports terror group Al Shabaab and is suspected of promoting jihad online, breached his T-Pim more than ten times.

The offences included using the internet, meeting banned associates and failing to stay in contact with the authorities. He was also caught with mobile phones at his home and £4,680 in cash.

The man has been banned from having more than £200 at any one time because he is suspected of previously helping to raise tens of thousands of pounds for Somalia-based Al Shabaab.

Examination of his financial records showed that between 2006 and 2008 he sent money totalling $20,390 to 33 individuals in Somalia, Ethiopia, Yemen, Egypt, Syria and Sweden

[Gob]

A UK family of 12 who went missing have joined so-called Islamic State and feel "safer than ever", according to a statement said to be on their behalf.

The statement, purportedly sent by a British member of IS, said it was "outrageous" to suggest the Mannan family from Luton had been kidnapped and forced to join the group.

The BBC has not been able to verify if the statement is genuine.

A friend of a teenager among the 12 said he thought he had been "tricked".

The family, who have not been seen since 17 May, includes three children aged between one and 11. Police have previously said they may have travelled to Syria.

The statement is accompanied by two photos purportedly of family member Muhammed Abdul Mannan, which have not been independently verified.

It comes as a video apparently released by the IS group showed 25 men being shot dead in the ancient Syrian city of Palmyra.