Obama Goes To Arm Twist House Democrats...
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And from what I have been hearing, the TPP is some supersecret document that few can read and none can make copies of. Is this true? I cannot find a non-partisan explanation of what it is and what it says so far.
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Iat this point it's a theory. It's a proposed trade treaty so it means squat until it's done and ratified
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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Conceptually, the TPP makes excellent economic and strategic political sense...
We currently have very unfavorable trade arrangements, (particularly with Japan) throughout the region, and this puts the US firmly in the middle of economic arrangements in the Pacific; and it serves as a counter balance to China...
Which is not a party to this agreement...
And there has been no other trade agreement, (or any other major international agreement for that matter) under both Republican and Democratic Administrations for the past 30 years, that has not been brought forward under this "fast track" arrangement...
So this is entirely appropriate...
That having been said, I have no illusions about this Administration's ability to negociate a bad deal...
I'm sure they're quite capable of it...
Their record precedes them (though it's difficult to imagine how could one negociate a worse trade arrangement between the US and Japan then the one that exists currently...that would require a truly stunning level of incompetence...it's hard to imagine even Jimmy Carter negociating a worse arrangement...)
The news from each passing day shows The Administration folding like a cheap lawn chair to fresh demands in the Iranian Negociations...(the good news there is that even though the White House will sign off on it, it's likely to be so bad it will be rejected by 2/3 majorities in both Houses of Congress...but I digress..)
But all of that being said, I'm prepared to give the Administration the benefit of the doubt on the TPP..
If it turns out to be an awful deal, the Congress can vote it down...
Every detail of this agreement will be made public before those votes are cast...
All that has happened under "fast track" is that this Administration has been granted the same trade deal making authority that every President since Mr. Reagan has had...
We currently have very unfavorable trade arrangements, (particularly with Japan) throughout the region, and this puts the US firmly in the middle of economic arrangements in the Pacific; and it serves as a counter balance to China...
Which is not a party to this agreement...
And there has been no other trade agreement, (or any other major international agreement for that matter) under both Republican and Democratic Administrations for the past 30 years, that has not been brought forward under this "fast track" arrangement...
So this is entirely appropriate...
That having been said, I have no illusions about this Administration's ability to negociate a bad deal...
I'm sure they're quite capable of it...
Their record precedes them (though it's difficult to imagine how could one negociate a worse trade arrangement between the US and Japan then the one that exists currently...that would require a truly stunning level of incompetence...it's hard to imagine even Jimmy Carter negociating a worse arrangement...)
The news from each passing day shows The Administration folding like a cheap lawn chair to fresh demands in the Iranian Negociations...(the good news there is that even though the White House will sign off on it, it's likely to be so bad it will be rejected by 2/3 majorities in both Houses of Congress...but I digress..)
But all of that being said, I'm prepared to give the Administration the benefit of the doubt on the TPP..
If it turns out to be an awful deal, the Congress can vote it down...
Every detail of this agreement will be made public before those votes are cast...
All that has happened under "fast track" is that this Administration has been granted the same trade deal making authority that every President since Mr. Reagan has had...
