Wise words

[Joe Guy]

I think the whole list could be replaced by something like:

"Do and say whatever you feel like whenever you fell like doing or saying it, and fuck everybody else"

Or: I have no kinda obligation to anyone but my own self and I ain't even sure about that!

[Lord Jim]

Married, hell, should never have any kind of relationship with any human being. Or belong to a community.

Cave dweller rules, for sure.

Tough to argue with that...

Forget about marriage, or children...

Anyone who wants to have any sort of meaningful empathetic relationship with another human being (be it a family member, a close friend, whatever...)

Would have to reject this "You don't owe anyone..." list; it's essentially a "Misanthrope's Creed"...

It's basically "a list of rules to live by" that sounds like an Opera Diva vocalizing:

"Me, me, me, me, me , ME, MEEEE"...

Wise words

Not so much....

[Lord Jim]

It reminds me of an old Rockford Files episode, where Rockford was dealing with a person who had been involved with a takeoff on "EST"...

The woman explained to Rockford about how her "philosophy" made her think about "herself" and how important it had become for her to "focus" on herself...

After listening to this for a while, Rockford said:

"You know what? That 'philosophy' of yours just sounds like a fancy way of saying 'me first'"...

[BoSoxGal]

Source: http://www.powerofpositivity.com/20-thi ... we-anyone/

Funny that some of you would react so strongly against concepts that are meant to build self esteem and create healthy boundaries with others.

It's not at all impossible for folks to keep these promises to themselves while still thriving in committed relationship with a life partner or any other kind of close relationship.

Maybe it's because I'm younger than nearly everyone on the board and the marriages and intimate relationships of my peers that I observe are less traditionally-influenced than what you dinosaurs experience.

[Lord Jim]

Maybe it's because I'm younger than nearly everyone on the board and the marriages and intimate relationships of my peers that I observe are less traditionally-influenced than what you dinosaurs experience.

LMFAO

You know what the funniest part of that rationalization is?

You actually believe it....

[BoSoxGal]

I'm pretty sure I'm the youngest poster on the board, or second youngest - Crackpot might be younger.

I certainly see things posted about some folks' marriages that sound somewhat old fashioned in terms of traditional distribution of housework, etc. and I think the way of relating in older folks' marriages is significantly different than in the marriages of many in the younger generation - at least in my observation.

The list I posted in the OP is nothing more than the age-old wisdom once spouted by the Bard: "To thine own self be true" - and certainly it's true that if one follows the guidance in the list, one would never be basing interactions in intimate relationships on false premises. I think that's sound advice. YMMV.

[Gob]

OFFS, I get so much of that "power of positivity" shite as spam on facebook from my more "hippy" UK mates. One-line, Xmas cracker, fortune cookie philosophy, for the hard of thinking.

[Lord Jim]

The list I posted in the OP is nothing more than the age-old wisdom once spouted by the Bard: "To thine own self be true"

No it's not...

Not by a long shot...

It's "me first, I'm all that matters, no one else counts"...

I'm pretty sure I'm the youngest poster on the board, or second youngest - Crackpot might be younger.

And that would matter........because?

I certainly see things posted about some folks' marriages that sound somewhat old fashioned in terms of traditional distribution of housework, etc. [housework? What does that have to do with anything?] and I think the way of relating in older folks' marriages is significantly different than in the marriages of many in the younger generation - at least in my observation.

So in your "observation" "younger generation" parents think first and foremost of themselves before the interests of their children?

Which is what that "Wise Words" list would suggest they should do...

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and suggest that even though you are younger than me, I know a bit more about "younger generation parents" than you do...(Since I interact with them all the time as the parent of a five year old going on six years...and as the parent of a daughter turning 16 this weekend, I have some familiarity with that "generation" as well... )

Even though technically I'm old enough to be the parent of most of the parents of my son's and daughter's friends, we get on quite well, and they seem to have the same level of "put your kids first" attitude towards their children that I have for mine...

Apparently, I have a much higher opinion of the "younger generation" then you do....(I believe you're about the same age as Kelly)


I think it's really kind of funny that you're trying to look on me as part of "the older generation"...

I'm part of the 70's Generation...

That was known as the "Me Generation"...

Reportedly, the most self absorbed generation of all time...

You seem to be a one-woman "Me Generation"...

[TPFKA@W]

It tells a story that there are boarders and not a live in lover to share expenses.

[MajGenl.Meade]

Kinda unnecessary @w

[TPFKA@W]

Hey I am being completely upfront in keeping with the op. One does not concern oneself with hurt feelings.

ETA: She has me on ignore so she will see it to passa stone over it.

[MajGenl.Meade]

OK but the OP is bad form, so.... not really much kudos in adhering to it eh?

[rubato]

Listing the number of things I do owe to others is a more immediately useful guide to personal morality than attempting only to list the things I don't.


yrs,
rubato

[TPFKA@W]

OK but the OP is bad form, so.... not really much kudos in adhering to it eh?

In addition to your role here in being self-appointed grammar policeman you now have decided you are resident moral policeman too?

Kiss my ass.

[Guinevere]

Listing the number of things I do owe to others is a more immediately useful guide to personal morality than attempting only to list the things I don't.


yrs,
rubato

That's well said rube, and something my classmates and I discussed just this weekend, at our law school reunion (20 years a lawyer, wow, I think it took )

I owe much to many. I only hope I can make similar contributions.

[Lord Jim]

Listing the number of things I do owe to others is a more immediately useful guide to personal morality than attempting only to list the things I don't.


yrs,
rubato

Now those are actually some "Wise Words"...

[wesw]

rube wins a cookie. I ll even go as far as a pot-laced cookie this time.....

[MajGenl.Meade]

OK but the OP is bad form, so.... not really much kudos in adhering to it eh?

In addition to your role here in being self-appointed grammar policeman you now have decided you are resident moral policeman too?

Kiss my ass.

No thanks - I'd take up LJ's offer first. Just pointing out - the OP is crap and you decided to wallow. I prefer plain old name-calling to meanly using other people's private lives as a weapon for cheap insults. Oh that's right - you're against that kind of thing when welders do it.

[TPFKA@W]

OK but the OP is bad form, so.... not really much kudos in adhering to it eh?

In addition to your role here in being self-appointed grammar policeman you now have decided you are resident moral policeman too?

Kiss my ass.

No thanks - I'd take up LJ's offer first. Just pointing out - the OP is crap and you decided to wallow. I prefer plain old name-calling to meanly using other people's private lives as a weapon for cheap insults. Oh that's right - you're against that kind of thing when welders do it.

Well the welder went way over the line now didn't she? Thus far I have not attempted to contact the boarders to let them know what a precarious situation I perceive them to be in.
I don't consider thei insult cheap so much as on point.
Kindly remove the giant cactus from your anal vault and clean your own house Meade.
If you don't want personal stuff to be an issue you probably shouldn't post it. Someone might take it and run with it as we have seen others do here.

[Sue U]

Listing the number of things I do owe to others is a more immediately useful guide to personal morality than attempting only to list the things I don't.


yrs,
rubato

That's well said rube,

I will also agree with that thought.