A Thread For Posts About The Confederate Battle Flag...

[Crackpot]

But somehow still worth commenting on.

[Lord Jim]

unfortunately, she's picked somebody who doesn't give a shit about the opinions

Yeah, that's obvious...

yet never addresses her trolling. (I know I shouldn't expect any less of LJ.)

Yeah, I really should feel an obligation to rush to your defense, after all the times you've jumped in to chastise rube for all the shit he has started ...

Oh wait...

That having been said, if she had claimed to have you on ignore, and written a post similar to yours, I would have made a similar observation.

She's clearly made me her latest bullying focus

How can somebody be "trolled" and "bullied" by a person if they aren't reading what they're saying?

[BoSoxGal]

Crackpot, you can be a real dick and a real idiot at times, too - but I generally don't make such comments about you. If I did, I would expect YOU to comment about my mean-spirited bitchiness.

So just to get things straight, I'm supposed to silently tolerate @w's personal attacks on my intellect, professional life and physical appearance . . . and if I don't, you judge ME the bitch?

Yeah, I'll consider the source. Dickhead.

[BoSoxGal]

unfortunately, she's picked somebody who doesn't give a shit about the opinions

Yeah, that's obvious...

yet never addresses her trolling. (I know I shouldn't expect any less of LJ.)

Yeah, I really should feel an obligation to rush to your defense, after all the times you've jumped in to chastise rube for all the shit he has started ...

Oh wait...

That having been said, if she had claimed to have you on ignore, and written a post similar to yours, I would have made a similar observation.

She's clearly made me her latest bullying focus

How can somebody be "trolled" and "bullied" by a person if they aren't reading what they're saying?

You're in simply no position whatsoever to moralize to anybody, anywhere about the proper manners to utilize on a BBS. Sorry, but I think you are more than well aware that you act like a fucking asshole a lot of time here - if you're not so aware, it's because you are so arrogant you can't see the world except through your own filter.

Yeah, okay, I see the problem.

[Lord Jim]

You're in simply no position whatsoever to moralize to anybody, anywhere about the proper manners to utilize on a BBS.

[BoSoxGal]

I guess you would have to take some time from your marketing scam to find all the posts wherein I engaged in personal attack and vitriol toward other posters EXCEPT in defense of having first had all kinds of shit flung at me.

I'm very opinionated and when I 'speak' my mind here, I do so as confidently as you or Scooter or any number of other posters who think they're of the right opinion on various matters.

I don't, however, generally engage in personal attack or invective. Except that YOU think it's personal attack when I point out how tiresome it gets for all of us to watch you and Gob beat up on rubato, who clearly will never change.

I don't know, LJ, maybe I'm just a horrible waste of water and space and I should just hang myself from the rafters in my garage and give you the credit for removing my worthless self from the world. Tell me, will THAT make you happy? Or will you just complain the next day that I was so outrageously selfish as to remove from you one of your favorite punching bags?

I sure don't care. Andrew D was right about you, too.

[wesw]

guys, do me a personal favor please?

let this go. it really doesn t matter who is right or wrong, does it?

please, feel free to rip me to shreds, no words will hurt me, much.

it has gone too far.

I hate niggers jews fags and bitches...., have at me.....

[MajGenl.Meade]

Why can't we all just get along? I find offensive language to be offensive no matter what the source but sometimes I don't bother reading diatribes - too much like diarrhea.

[Lord Jim]

I guess you would have to take some time from your marketing scam to find all the posts wherein I engaged in personal attack and vitriol toward other posters EXCEPT in defense of having first had all kinds of shit flung at me.

LMAO!!!

What a delusional crock...

No, I'd have to retire and devote myself full time to tackle a project that large...(Believe me I know, since I've frequently been your primary target...you left this board the last time after a fight that began with personal attacks and vitriol being dumped out by you on to me...Surely even with your level of denial you must remember that one... )

I don't know, LJ, maybe I'm just a horrible waste of water and space and I should just hang myself from the rafters in my garage and give you the credit for removing my worthless self from the world. Tell me, will THAT make you happy?

Wow...

You really need to get your meds adjusted...

No wonder you see a woman in a straight jacket as meant to represent you...

one of your favorite punching bags

Actually the reality is (You remember reality... I'm sure you must have read about it somewhere years ago...) that since your return, I have made a deliberate effort (not 100% successful, but largely successful) to try not to respond in kind to your sneering, snarky, condescending provocations.

[wesw]

leave her alone jim

[Scooter]

[BoSoxGal]

I was gonna insert the 'funny post' smiley here, but it won't let me on the iPhone. Still, super funny!!

[wesw]

"hey boo boo, bring the pic-a-nic basket to the pic-a-nic table..., the ranger will never know..."

[BoSoxGal]

Protesters Fly Confederate Flags To Greet Obama In Oklahoma
"You know, this flag's not racist. And I know a lot of people think it is, but it's really not."

Amanda Terkel
Senior Political Reporter, The Huffington Post
Posted: 07/15/2015



A group of Confederate-flag-waving protesters gathered near the Oklahoma high school where President Barack Obama is scheduled to speak Wednesday afternoon, insisting that what they were doing was about heritage rather than racism.

"We're not gonna stand down from our heritage. You know, this flag's not racist. And I know a lot of people think it is, but it's really not. It's just a southern thing, that's it," Trey Johnson, who drove three hours from Texas to join the protest, told KFOR.

"It is about history. It's not about racism at all because both black men, as well as white men, stood side by side," said another protester, who gave her name as Stephanie. "They fought together for the beliefs that they believed in."

Obama is traveling to Durant High School to give a speech on expanding economic opportunity for communities nationwide, including the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma.

The protesters lined up along the road to the high school ahead of Obama's visit, and police officers gathered to keep them off school property.

[wesw]

here is a Wikipedia link to a list of civil war battles fought in Oklahoma. check out the list of belligerents at the far right of the chart. it is very interesting.

what the heck is the "kingdom of new spain"?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... 8HSHpxEs0Q

eta- well I was wrong. it is a list of all battles in Oklahoma. still interesting tho. the batlle of the kingdom of new spain vs Wichita was 1749

they even included timothy mc veigh at the end

[MajGenl.Meade]

"It is about history. It's not about racism at all because both black men, as well as white men, stood side by side," said another protester, who gave her name as Stephanie. "They fought together for the beliefs that they believed in."

Yet more of the revisionist Lost Cause mythology. Blacks of the South fought all right - they went to Federal lines and donned blue uniforms. That's where, no matter how much friction there was, black and white in their thousands eventually fought side by side - against the Confederacy

[wesw]

meade, see my above post. posted simultaneously with your post I think.

[MajGenl.Meade]

I saw your post. It has nothing whatsoever to do with blacks fighting as Confederate soldiers, still less for "the beliefs that they believed in" (sic); i.e. a society based upon chattel slavery and the natural inferiority of the black race.

[rubato]

http://www.vox.com/2015/7/16/8977099/co ... a-oklahoma

Protesters wave Confederate flags as first black president drives by in a motorcade


When President Barack Obama arrived at his hotel in Oklahoma on Wednesday for a trip in which he will visit a federal prison, some protesters greeted the first black president with a symbol of white supremacy — the Confederate battle flag.

The Confederate flag has always been a symbol of white supremacy and racism

The president previously criticized the flag as a symbol of hate, and he praised the Republican governor and Republican-controlled legislature of South Carolina for voting to take it down from the state's Capitol grounds.

Supporters of the Confederate flag argue that it's a symbol of heritage that honors the dead who fought in the Civil War. But that heritage is mired in racism, and the major cause that those soldiers fought for during the Civil War was slavery, an obviously racist institution. And after a mass shooting left nine dead at a black church in Charleston, South Carolina, last month in what's been characterized as a hate crime, keeping the flag up felt like an insult to many black Americans.
The Confederate flag has always been a symbol of white supremacy and racism

Throughout history, the Confederate flag has been repeatedly used as a symbol to oppress black people. It was flown by Southern armies during the Civil War as they fought to keep slavery. And it was later brought back in the 1960s, as Vox's Libby Nelson explained, to intimidate civil rights advocates and defend segregation.

When states seceded from the union during the Civil War, they explicitly voiced their racist intents. South Carolina, the first state to secede, said in its official statement that it saw any attempts to abolish slavery and grant rights to black Americans as "hostile to the South" and "destructive of its beliefs and safety." Mississippi was even more explicit, stating that its "position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery."

These statements leave no doubt that the South fought in the Civil War to protect the institution of slavery. This history is why South Carolina, with the support of Obama, moved to take down the flag. But it also makes protesters' decision to greet the first black president with a Confederate flag seem all the more misguided, even if they didn't have racist intents.

[Econoline]

Protesters wave Confederate flags as first black president drives by in a motorcade

Oh yeah, nothing racial about that, not at all, nosiree....

Look at the skin color of every one of those "rebels" in the photographs.






P.S. Interesting link, wes. I see that the actual Native American residents of what was then called Indian Territory fought against the CSA.