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True, but then maybe it was a missed attempt at humor -- he's pretty much perfected that in recent years.

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When I want/need a medical opinion, Jim Carrey is the first person I think of.
NOT!!!!! :shrug :mrgreen:

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Seattle: A woman in Washington state died from measles in the northern hemisphere spring, the first measles death in the US since 2003 and the first in the state since 1990, health officials said.

The woman lacked some of measles' common symptoms, such as a rash, so the infection was not discovered until an autopsy, Washington state Department of Health spokesman Donn Moyer said on Thursday.

It is the 11th case of measles in Washington state this year, Mr Moyer said, following an outbreak of measles at Disneyland in California late last year.

The Disneyland outbreak sparked an intense debate around America about mandating vaccinations for schoolchildren, which some parents oppose, and eventually sickened more than 140 people across the country and in Mexico and Canada.


Measles is highly contagious and spreads when an infected person breathes, coughs or sneezes, however, death is extremely rare, Mr Moyer said.

Officials didn't say whether the woman had been vaccinated, but they did note she had a compromised immune system.

They withheld her age to protect her identity but said she was not elderly.

The woman was in hospital for several health conditions in the northern spring at a facility on the Olympic Peninsula.

She was there at the same time as a person who later developed a rash and was contagious for measles, Mr Moyer says and it was then she was most likely exposed.
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Gob wrote:
There is nothing funny about Jim Carrey's anti-vaccination Twitter rant.

The comedian has posted a series of angry messages to his 14 million followers accusing the Californian government of being a "corporate fascist".

In the outburst, the 53-year-old father says the government is "poisoning more children" by enforcing vaccinations.
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And comedians are generally more intelligent than the average person. maybe it doesn't apply to slapstick ....


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Not necessarily, but the above average intelligence only refers to good comedians. From what I've read I think Moe Howard was pretty sharp.

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Fort Lauderdale, Florida: A Florida woman who disappeared with her then two-year-old daughter in May 2014, reportedly to avoid having the girl vaccinated, was arrested on Monday
on a federal parental kidnapping charge, authorities said.

Megan Elizabeth Everett, 23, was taken into custody without incident and her daughter, Lilly Abigail Baumann, 3, was found safe.

The arrest was made by Putnam County Sheriff's deputies and the FBI.

The case was featured on CNN's documentary-style investigation series The Hunt with John Walsh on Sunday.

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Authorities said that, after the show aired, a viewer recognised Ms Everett and Lilly as tenants of a rental property in Palatka, Florida, about 72 kilometres east of Gainesville.

Lilly's father, Robert Baumann, 27, said he got the call he had been waiting for about lunchtime on Monday.

"It's so great, I'm so relieved," Mr Baumann said in a phone interview with the Sun Sentinel as he drove to be reunited with his daughter.

"It just kind of stunned me; I felt like I was running around with my head chopped off.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/florida-mot ... z3huBziZo6

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It's pretty amazing that a custody dispute/kidnapping in Florida is news in Australia. I doubt US papers would even mention it if the countries were reversed. Maybe it was because of the john Walsh show?

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Maybe it was because the reason for kidnapping the daughter makes the mother a nutcase.
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Scooter fails to see Big RR's point, which is quite interesting. His comment was not directed at Australian media reporting a story but at US media not reciprocating

Generally speaking, the US media and USians (including myself as always) don't give a flying squirrel what happens in Australialand - they can all kidnap their own children and eat them, probably without a report disturbing our day.

Well, maybe if they ALL did... but one or two... nada.
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Scooter--Perhaps, but I googled the case and the vaccinations are just one of the many disputes the couple had over the raising of the girls. Sounds more like a typical serious custody fight with the vaccination being a small part of it.

Meade--a little bit of both.

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MajGenl.Meade wrote:Generally speaking, the US media and USians (including myself as always) don't give a flying squirrel what happens in Australialand - they can all kidnap their own children and eat them, probably without a report disturbing our day.

Well, maybe if they ALL did... but one or two... nada.
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They just blame the dingo....

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MajGenl.Meade wrote:Scooter fails to see Big RR's point, which is quite interesting. His comment was not directed at Australian media reporting a story but at US media not reciprocating
Bill Bryson had an interesting quote about this, it went along the lines of ; "If you want to see your country disappear, just open an American newspaper..."
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True, other than a tiny number of papers like the NYT, LAT, SjMercury, and WP international news does not exist and news outside that state barely gets mentioned.

There is a reason that people vote as they do.

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I agree, but there's a big difference between reporting on international news of importance and reporting in a custody dispute (however bitter) in Florida. That's more lurid tabloid news than anything of international importance.
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I have a subscription to the NYT specifically because of its international coverage...(certainly not because of its editorial policy)

Nobody else comes close....(Well maybe the Washington Post, but I can't get same delivery for it out here.)

The international coverage in The SF Chronicle is a joke, and the few stories they do have are cut down versions copied and pasted from the NYT or the AP wire service.
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