trump is serious!!!!!

[Lord Jim]

Even the despised George W. Bush....

Even in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, he went out of his way to make the point that while we are fighting the Islamo-fascists, (which we certainly are) that does not translate into a war against Islam..

He made numerous public appearances with American Muslim leaders to drive that point home...

Whatever else you may think about George, he repeatedly said that Muslim Americans should not be punished for 9/11, and he put his money where his mouth was in terms of embracing the American Muslim community...

He wasn't sending a "dog whistle"...

He was trying to get the dogs to sit down...

[Crackpot]

http://flavorwire.com/537887/who-said-i ... nt-camacho

[Lord Jim]

At long last, something has happened in the polls that I actually expected:

Poll: Fiorina rockets to No. 2 behind Trump in GOP field

Washington (CNN)Carly Fiorina shot into second place in the Republican presidential field on the heels of another strong debate performance, and Donald Trump has lost some support, a new national CNN/ORC poll shows.

The survey, conducted in the three days after 23 million people tuned in to Wednesday night's GOP debate on CNN, shows that Trump is still the party's front-runner with 24% support. That, though, is an 8 percentage point decrease from earlier in the month when a similar poll had him at 32%.

Fiorina ranks second with 15% support -- up from 3% in early September. She's just ahead of Ben Carson's 14%, though Carson's support has also declined from 19% in the previous poll.

Driving Trump's drop and Fiorina's rise: a debate in which 31% of Republicans who watched said Trump was the loser, and 52% identified Fiorina as the winner.

READ: The complete CNN/ORC poll results

During the CNN debate, Fiorina clashed with Trump over his personal attacks and their business records and scored points for her condemnation of Planned Parenthood.

The top three contenders underscore a key theme in the 2016 race: In a jampacked GOP presidential field, the leading candidates are the only ones who have never held political office.

But one established politician has seen his standing rise after flashing foreign policy chops on the debate stage. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida -- identified as Wednesday's winner by 14% of Republicans, putting him second behind Fiorina -- is now in fourth place with 11% support, up from 3% in a previous poll.

In fifth place is former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, at 9%. He's followed by Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee at 6% each, Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky at 4%, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie at 3%, Ohio Gov. John Kasich at 2% and former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania at 1%.

Five other candidates received less than one-half of 1 percentage point support: former Virginia Gov. Jim Gilmore, Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, former New York Gov. George Pataki and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker.

Walker's collapse is especially stark.

Celebrated by conservatives -- in the party's base and its donor class alike -- for his union-busting efforts in Wisconsin, Walker at one point led the field in the key early voting state of Iowa.

His support had already dropped to 5% in a CNN/ORC poll in early September, but the bottom appears to have fallen out completely since then -- with a second flat debate performance coming after criticism of his disparate answers on issues like birthright citizenship.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/20/politics/ ... 2016-poll/

Among the many, many things that have surprised me about this course of the nomination process, (in both parties) the collapse of Walker's campaign certainly ranks...

He was doing very well initially and I assumed that he could not have accomplished what he accomplished politically in Wisconsin without there being something to him....

But he has really emerged as a poster boy for Not Ready For Prime Time....

[RayThom]

... Dr. Ben, the somnambulist Repub candidate, may very well have tripped up while sleepwalking. A few polls now show his remarks were not well received -- especially by the Muslim voter bloc. Go figure.
http://www.freep.com/story/news/nation/ ... /72532038/

One by one, the candidate field will probably winnow down to eight or nine by the end of September. On the other hand, Trumpty-Dumpty says he will spend $100 Million of his own money to secure the nomination. Or so he says, but I seriously doubt he has that kind of liquidity. OPM is easily spent, but his own, not so much.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/19/us/po ... .html?_r=0

Money may not buy happiness, but it sure does wonders when running for political office.

[Lord Jim]

I saw on the news yesterday that Trump said "I pride myself" on being a good father...

And I have no reason to doubt that Trump is a good father; his older children all seem to have turned out quite well, so I'm not going to take issue with that...

What struck me was the "I pride myself" bit...

Is there anything that Trump doesn't "pride himself " on?

I get the impression that if you were to ask Trumpty how he feels about the way he takes a shit, he would reply with something like:

"I take the most excellent, perfect, amazing, incredible shits imaginable. Truly fantastic, unbelievably successful shits. My shits are so great, they're absolutely magnificent; you would be in awe of how spectacular my shits are. I could charge people to come look at my shits, and I'd have a HUGE crowd lined up around the block, believe me. Nobody shits the way I do; not even close"...

[dales]

Is there anything that Trump doesn't "pride himself " on?

His humility.

[Crackpot]

I bet you're wrong on that

[Lord Jim]

I have no doubt that his humility is one of his many stellar qualities that he is most proud of...

[Crackpot]

https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtr ... 76?lang=en

[Big RR]

[wesw]

trump just gave a full throated defense of eminent domain. "i love eminent domain", he said....

I can t imagine that this won t damage his campaign "tremendously'.....

it s gonna be 'huge'..., I hope

[dales]

Unread postPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:51 pm
trump just gave a full throated defense of eminent domain. "i love eminent domain", he said....

bloody socialist

[Big RR]

Trump would love eminent domain, especially as it has now been extended to benefit businesses at the expense of residents. After all, look at the great job Pfizer did in developing the "blighted area" in Connecticut. I guess they spent the development money to go to court and defend the concept of eminent domain for private interests.

[Guinevere]

That's not what Kelo said or did.....and Trump had no fracking clue what he is talking about.

[Econoline]

[Big RR]

Well Guin, we can debate Kelo and its effect in another thread. And Trump never has a clue or any portion of one.

[wesw]

sorry, I misquoted the trumpster.

"eminent domain is wonderful" is more accurate


stupid lyme....

I apologize for being a semi-moron

[Lord Jim]

I apologize for being a semi-moron

Gee wes, it must be Meade's birthday for you to toss him a pitch like that...

[Crackpot]

You don't know how much self control it took not to take the shot.

[MajGenl.Meade]

Me too... but if I had...