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rubato wrote:So how long before football disappears from elite HS sports programs altogether?
The sooner, the better.
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Sue U wrote:How are you feeling about Chase Utley?

I'm thinking the Dodgers picked up a veteran player who is not hitting very well. I don't think he's that big a loss from the lineup for two games. His salary with the Phils was $15M dollars?
I don't keep track of salaries. But the Phils had Utley for 15 years; he was highly effective at 2B and a reliable hitter, usually in the high 200s. I don't begrudge him the money, especially since he was integral to the "World Fucking Series" team.
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Sue U wrote:
rubato wrote:So how long before football disappears from elite HS sports programs altogether?
The sooner, the better.
rubato wrote:
Sue U wrote:How are you feeling about Chase Utley?

I'm thinking the Dodgers picked up a veteran player who is not hitting very well. I don't think he's that big a loss from the lineup for two games. His salary with the Phils was $15M dollars?
I don't keep track of salaries. But the Phils had Utley for 15 years; he was highly effective at 2B and a reliable hitter, usually in the high 200s. I don't begrudge him the money, especially since he was integral to the "World Fucking Series" team.
He's hitting 212, pitchers hit better than that. I don't care about the money but he is of little benefit.


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Cubs take series lead over Cardinals with six-home run explosion

CHICAGO -- The Chicago Cubs set a major league postseason record by hitting six home runs, including back-to-back long balls by Kris Bryant and Anthony Rizzo in the fifth inning, as they beat the St. Louis Cardinals 8-6. Starlin Castro, Kyle Schwarber, Jorge Soler and Dexter Fowler also went deep.

The Cubs took advantage of the wind blowing straight out at 17 mph. That wind also affected their pitcher, and Jake Arrieta looked human for the first time in more than three months. He left after giving up a home run to Jason Heyward and then hitting a batter in the sixth, but the Cubs never relinquished the lead.
http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/po ... -explosion

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Ho.

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The Jays have rallied to tie up their series with Texas going into the 5th game.

I know, you were all waiting on tenterhooks for that news.
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rubato--[quoteHe was supposed to try to break up the double play. Although considering the consequences I think a rule change is in order.
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MLB rules state:

If, in the judgment of the umpire, a base runner willfully and deliberately interferes with a batted ball or a fielder in the act of fielding a batted ball with the obvious intent to break up a double play, the ball is dead. The umpire shall call the runner out for interference and also call out the batter-runner because of the action of his teammate. In no event may bases be run or runs. scored because of such action by a runner.

Now there is a judgment call (during the press conference the MLB official said he was not going to second guess the umpire), but it is on the books to cover situations just like this. Perhaps this rule should be changed to make the umpire's call reviewable, but then I do not know if it is right now.

BTW, thanks for the correction the name; I think it is obvious where my attention has been.

And FWIW, go Dodgers.

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Big RR, that is the rule for whether the base runner is out. What is the rule for imposing a suspension? It seems that this was a fairly typical effort to break up the double play, and it ended unfortunately. I think it is ridiculous that this sort of thing is typical (like pitchers throwing at hitters), and there should be a clear penalty system for this type of violation to discourage it.

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True, but if he rule for ending the play and calling both out were enforced, I'd bet you see less of this sort of play.

Personally, for a suspension I would think it would depend on whether he intentionally went to injure the player or not, I think that is what is done (or should be done) with pitchers intentionally throwing at batters vs letting a brush back pitch get away.

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So Utley sat out last night but was eligeable to play. Should have just taken the suspension.

And from what I heard, the play was not reviewable.

And from what I understand of hte rule, both batter and Utley should have been called out. That was a clear violation. I didn't know that was ont he books as breaking up a double play is tried so often.
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And from what I heard, the play was not reviewable.
I'm not all that much of a baseball watcher, oldr; are most plays judgment calls of the umpire and not reviewable?

As for the Mets, I'd still be happy if they advance (not as happy as the dogers, but happy), but me and the dodgers go way back, growing up in Brooklyn and all. Even though I never remember them playing in Brooklyn, I d recall relishing the chance we got to watch them on TV (I like the SF Giants for the same reason).

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Big RR wrote: but me and the dodgers go way back, growing up in Brooklyn and all. Even though I never remember them playing in Brooklyn, I d recall relishing the chance we got to watch them on TV (I like the SF Giants for the same reason).
Interesting, kind of like Oakland Traider fans who maintained their connection even when the team moved to L.A.

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Well, I stayed a Rams fan even when they moved to St Louis; some people are turned off by the move (like a lot of my friends' fathers with the Dodgers), but others don't care.

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Big RR wrote:Well, I stayed a Rams fan even when they moved
Sure that wasn't on the move from Cleveland to L.A.? And hey, they still have the best helmet, pro, college or high school. That's reason enough to root for them in today's games with players and coaches constantly moving from team to team.

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I'm not all that much of a baseball watcher, oldr; are most plays judgment calls of the umpire and not reviewable?
Not up on what is a reviewable play or not. I heard on WFAN that this particular play is not reviewable. I have seen first base plays reviewed and home runs when they hit certain parts of the wall reviewed.
The great mystery. :shrug :mrgreen:

The dodgers and giants mean nothing to me. I used to work in Bed Sty and there was a bodega we delivered beer to that was near where ebbets field was. The ebbets field projects are there now (or were back in 76-79 when I worked there) That's as close to the dodgers as I ever got.

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Long Run wrote:
Big RR wrote:Well, I stayed a Rams fan even when they moved
Sure that wasn't on the move from Cleveland to L.A.? And hey, they still have the best helmet, pro, college or high school. That's reason enough to root for them in today's games with players and coaches constantly moving from team to team.
No, I think they left Cleveland just after WW2--too early for me. :D

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I wonder how many Bostonians are still Braves or Redskins fans? 8-)

I doubt there are a whole lot of A's fans in Kansas City or Philadelphia, either...
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Basketball?
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Yes, basketball...

So run up to the basket and stuff it... :P
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Jim--but I also bet there are still a lot of fans of the Colts who trace their support back to Baltimore, and Cardinals fans who continued to support them after they left St Louis. Then again, because of the smaller number of teams (at least before) and games, and the old blackout rules, most of the NFKL coverage didn't include live coverage of local games, so a lot of people could see teams that were not in their area and support them--something less common in baseball.

Personally, I've always had trouble supporting the home teams because of the idiot local fans.

Then again, I doubt there are many Ravens fans in Cleveland, and I recall seeing open hatred of the colts at a Ravens game only a few years ago--fights in the stands, booing, cursing--one guy in the next section got in a fight and had to be tased and taken out. So some people never forget (even thought they walk through Johnny Unitas Plaza, with a statue of him in a Colts uniform, on the way into the stadium.

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Ravens fans in Cleveland? I should like to hope to not think so! Traitorous swine Modell. And Ozzie can never come home.
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