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Guinevere
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Lord Jim wrote:
"5X3 = 3X5"
Is an absolutely correct answer...

It's also a smart ass answer in the context of being in elementary school...

What this kid needs to learn is "don't be a smart ass"... ;)
Apparently neither you nor the student can read the actual question that was asked.

You're simply wrong (and continue taking my comments OUT OF CONTEXT), although I recognize that it is impossible for you to admit such a thing.
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Gob wrote:
Guinevere wrote:
"No Child Left Behind" my fanny....

Thank god they teach punctuation there!
Because clearly they did not in Wales.
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3+3+3+3+3 and 5+5+5 are expressing different things, even if they are equal in total. But it's sheer pedantry to say that 3x5 can only be represented by the former, and 5x3 only by the latter. I think either 3x5 or 5x3 can be justifiably interpreted as 3 added five times or 5 added three times. The student clearly understood the concept behind the question, and was only marked wrong because an answer sheet said so.
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Gob wrote: This is despite the fact that in the 2011-2012 school year—the latest for which the Department of Education has reported the financial data—the Detroit public schools had “total expenditures” of $18,361 per student and “current expenditures” of $13,330 per student.

According to data published by the Detroit Public Schools, the school district’s operating expenses in the fiscal year that ended on June 30, 2014 amounted to approximately $14,743 per student.
Doesn't seem like a money issue to me. In a lower cost area, they have more funds to work with than the best private schools (or public schools) around here.

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The average per pupil spending for Long Island is $23,972 according to Census data and $24,252 according to State Department of Education data. The average per pupil spending for Nassau County is $21,883 according to Census data and $23,172 according to State Department of Education data.
This was in a Newsday (the local newspaper here on LI) and I can't link it as it's blocked to me.
Here is the google search page
https://www.google.com/#q=long+island+cost+per+student

I agree with Long Run. Money doesn't seem to be an issue. Maybe in certain districts, but if Detroit is spending $18k per student while staving off bankruptcy, I think something else is amiss. (and what the heck is "total expenditures" versus "current expenditures"?)

Throwing more money at a problem is very rarely the answer.

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The problem is what are the challenges a particular school system faces? If a large percentage of the students do not speak English well, then that issue will have to be addressed. If parents cannot or will not help with homework, that will also have to be addressed. If violence and drugs are a problem, the school will have to deal with those problems. And so on.

Each of these solutions may cost more money, and the challenges many inner city systems face are quite different from the affluent districts of Nassau county. So sometimes more money might well help.

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If black students have low achievement in intercity schools why have not uncover personal, perhaps as teachers or support staff, been placed in the school to evaluated the learning environment?
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liberty wrote:If black students have low achievement in intercity schools why have not uncover personal, perhaps as teachers or support staff, been placed in the school to evaluated the learning environment?
I think uncovering personal is illegal - child molestation, maybe? Or flashing?

Or is your sentence a highly complex satire indicting the education system as whole?
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Maybe a bit too meta?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
GAH!

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MajGenl.Meade wrote:
liberty wrote:If black students have low achievement in intercity schools why have not uncover personal, perhaps as teachers or support staff, been placed in the school to evaluated the learning environment?
I think uncovering personal is illegal - child molestation, maybe? Or flashing?

Or is your sentence a highly complex satire indicting the education system as whole?
No, I just screwed it up. I Was trying to say find out what the problem is and fix it. If you ask the system what the solution is it will always be more money. An undercover inquiry is the only way to find the truth , but I believe I know what it is; it is a disruptive learning environment.
And money is not always the solution.
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Long Run wrote:
Gob wrote: This is despite the fact that in the 2011-2012 school year—the latest for which the Department of Education has reported the financial data—the Detroit public schools had “total expenditures” of $18,361 per student and “current expenditures” of $13,330 per student.

According to data published by the Detroit Public Schools, the school district’s operating expenses in the fiscal year that ended on June 30, 2014 amounted to approximately $14,743 per student.
Doesn't seem like a money issue to me. In a lower cost area, they have more funds to work with than the best private schools (or public schools) around here.


Really? You're saying that OES has less funding per student than a Portland public school?

Oregon Episcopal School: Tuition and Financial Aid
www.oes.edu/page.cfm?p=472Oregon Episcopal School

TUITION FOR 2015-2016
Pre-Kindergarten, Option 1: 5 short days, 7:55 am-12:30 pm Option 2: 3 short days, 2 full days Option 3: 5 full days, 7:55 am-2:55 pm $15,900 $17,900 $19,900
Grades 1-5 ........................ $24,750
Grades 6–8 ........................ $28,500
Grades 9-12 Day Student ........... $29,300
Grades 9-12 Boarding Student ..... $55,900
(does not include other revenue sources, gifts, endowments, &c)


Where DO you get these "facts"?


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