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Another Active Shooter Situation In Colorado....

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In Colorado Springs...

CNN is reporting that it's near a Planned Parenthood, but they don't know if there's a connection...There is also a large shopping center/strip mall there...
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The police should do a strip search
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I hope there are no fetal shootings.

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Pro-life until the first post-womb breath! :roll:
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The shootings took place inside the Planned Parenthood facility, (three were killed) but the police have yet to announce the motive. Unfortunately, the shooter has been taken alive. He also apparently brought explosives, but didn't set them off.

At the moment we don't know if the location was attacked because it was Planned Parenthood, or if it was a domestic dispute with one of the victims , a former employee, or some other explanation....

Most of the media pundits are treating it as definitely being the work of an anti-abortion fanatic It's funny how some folks who admonish us not to jump to conclusions when the most obvious explanation is Islamist terrorism, seem perfectly happy to do so in a case like this... 8-)
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If only the shooter had been inactive. That would have been something different altogether.

But seriously, we are becoming way too numb to all of this. It won't be long until we'll not blink an eye unless it's someone we know and love who is a victim.

Planned Parenthood? I wonder what religious and political ideology this guy holds sacred? Maybe I'll actually be surprised.

Robert Lewis Dear -- thank God he has three names. It wouldn't make sense, otherwise.
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Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton said in a Tweet that "Today and every day, we #StandWithPP", referring to Planned Parenthood.


That's so sweet
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RayThom wrote: I wonder what religious and political ideology this guy holds sacred? Maybe I'll actually be surprised
Obviously not this one:
You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘You shall not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’ But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment.
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Robert Lewis Dear -- thank God he has three names. It wouldn't make sense, otherwise.
My father explained the three name thing used to identify murderers a long time ago...

It's a journalistic convention to distinguish the perp from any other people who might have the same first and last name...

Here's a little more (very little more) about the guy:
Multiple news reports tonight are identifying the man who shot and killed three people at a Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood as Robert Lewis Dear.

Dear is from North Carolina, a federal official said, but no other details were immediately available. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to speak about the ongoing investigation.

"We don't have any information on this individual's mentality, or his ideas or ideology," Colorado Springs police Lt. Catherine Buckley told reporters.
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/1 ... color.html

Now that his identity is known, It shouldn't be too much longer for the press to start digging in his background, which should shed some light on his motive...

Presumably, after having him in custody this long, (unless he's not talking at all) the cops must have a pretty good idea of his motive by now...
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The police just released his mugshot:

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He certainly looks like the picture of good mental health....
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The reminds me we need to send our annual check to Planned Parenthood. They are so nice! Always inviting us to events.


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The gunman accused of killing a cop and two civilians during a tense standoff at a Colorado Planned Parenthood lived in a cabin without electricity or running water deep in the North Carolina mountains, his neighbor said.

Robert Lewis Dear — who surrendered Friday afternoon, five hours after he allegedly barricaded himself inside the Colorado Springs clinic — mostly kept to himself, said James Russell, who lived close to Dear on Black Mountain.

But when the 57-year-old did speak, he was scatter-brained and rambled, he said. "If you talked to him, nothing with him was very cognitive — topics all over place," Russell said
It appears the dead policeman was a part-time pastor.
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Another triumph of the American mental health system . . . and American society. Why do we insist on ignoring such people until they blow?
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mostly kept to himself
I'm going to guess that given his lifestyle, his personal hygiene habits probably made that well advised...
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bigskygal wrote:Another triumph of the American mental health system . . . and American society. Why do we insist on ignoring such people until they blow?
Well I wouldn't volunteer to go into the mountains and forcibly put him into mental health care
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Here's a photo of Stately Dear Manor:

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I don't imagine that a whole lot of Jehovah's Witnesses, Mary Kay sales reps, or Girl Scouts selling cookies walked up and knocked on that door... :?
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It appears the dead policeman was a part-time pastor.
Interesting guy...

He had also been a professional ice skater...
Colorado officer killed in shooting was church elder, retired figure skater

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(Reuters) - A police officer killed by a gunman who stormed a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs was a retired champion figure skater and an elder at a Christian church where he taught, led worship teams and played guitar.

Officer Garrett Swasey, 44, was on duty at the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs campus on Friday afternoon and he rushed through billowing snow to support colleagues at the scene when first reports came in of a shooter at large.

Two civilians were also killed and nine people, including five other police officers, were wounded in the attack.

Swasey, a six-year veteran of the university's police department, was married to Rachel Swasey and had two children, a 6-year-old daughter named Faith, and a son, Elijah, 10. :cry:

Originally from Boston, Swasey moved to Colorado Springs to train at the Olympic Training Center as a champion ice dancer.

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Sam Auxier, president of U.S. Figure Skating, said the officer would be remembered as a kind and selfless man who was well-liked by friends and competitors alike.

"He died in the line of duty serving the community of Colorado Springs, home to U.S. Figure Skating," Auxier said in a statement. "While we are shocked and saddened by his loss, we are grateful for his service as an officer and his impact as a figure skater."

Swasey won the U.S. junior national championship for couples skating in Orlando, Florida, in 1992.

An online fundraising page set up for the officer's family said Swasey was passionate about his role protecting the community, about his family, and about his faith.

Swasey and his wife were one of just four couples listed as elders at Colorado Springs' Hope Chapel Christian church, where they began attending services in 2001.

"Initially drawn by its small size, they have grown to love the fellowship and teaching at Hope Chapel," read a profile of the Swaseys on the church's website, alongside a photo of the couple and their children smiling and embracing.

The church said both of them had been "granted a servant's heart by God."

"Rachel serves behind the scenes leading and watching the little ones in the nursery. Garrett works full time in Law Enforcement and provides oversight to our Care Groups," the church's profile said.

"Additionally, as an elder, you will find him sharing his teaching gift as part of the teaching team and sharing his guitar skills on the worship team."

Raj Kumer, 30, working at his father's liquor store, United Wine & Liquor, a few doors down from Hope Chapel in a strip mall, said he had seen Swasey in the parking lot various times in the past and had smiled and waved at him.

He said he then saw the officer's photo on TV news late Friday night.

"I didn't know he was a cop," Kumer told Reuters. "It's just so, so sad," he added, shaking his head. The church was closed on Saturday.

The fundraising page noted that while the officer's funeral costs will be covered by the police, the campaign will be used to start an education fund for his children.

A candlelight vigil for Swasey and the other victims of Friday's attack was being organized by students for Saturday night on the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs campus. The civilians who were killed on Friday have yet to be identified.
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What is it with these type of people?

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ted kaczynski cabin

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the murderous malcontent

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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It appears likely that Ted Kaczynski was made, not born.




http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc ... er/378239/

"... This time my return was prompted not by nostalgia but by curiosity. No. 7 Divinity Avenue is a modern multi-story academic building today, housing the university's Department of Molecular and Cellular Biology. In 1959 a comfortable old house stood on the site. Known as the Annex, it served as a laboratory in which staff members of the Department of Social Relations conducted research on human subjects. There, from the fall of 1959 through the spring of 1962, Harvard psychologists, led by Henry A. Murray, conducted a disturbing and what would now be seen as ethically indefensible experiment on twenty-two undergraduates. To preserve the anonymity of these student guinea pigs, experimenters referred to individuals by code name only. One of these students, whom they dubbed "Lawful," was Theodore John Kaczynski, who would one day be known as the Unabomber, and who would later mail or deliver sixteen package bombs to scientists, academicians, and others over seventeen years, killing three people and injuring twenty-three. "

Fascinating story, well worth following the link.

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