Active Shooter Situation in CA

[TPFKA@W]

I m expecting civil war. good luck staying neutral.

I agree. The war will be gun nuts vs people who don't have them. The nuts will be so frustrated with the idea that somebody is going to take their guns away that they will begin shooting random people.

All of the gun nuts are good Christians so they will have God on their side. They will yell, "Praise the Lord!" between reloads while they storm schools and malls, knowing that only gun grabbers inhabit those places.

That will have the added benefit of scaring away Islamic terrorists. We will never have to worry about having any religious extremists invading this country! The 2nd amendment will save us!!!!

Sounds like a Trumped up scenario.

[Jarlaxle]

Looks more like the result of mixing ditch weed and absinthe.

[wesw]

well rube, your little theory has turned out to be completely wrong. in fact , there was ample evidence available in major media outlets for you to have learned that you were completely wrong before you posted.

you should really check these things first.

[wesw]

my god, the farook family attorneys are giving a press conference. it is horrible. I ll try to post it if it gets on you tube.

they sound like traitors to me.

[wesw]

"the brothers never saw her face, she wore a burkha"

the family was at the house al the time, but never saw the bomb factory or the isis stickers around the house.

the FBI and the landlord let about 100 reporters in the house today. amazing. take that Obama. can t lie now...

"the family said a guy made fun of his beard"

[dales]

FEAR THE BEARD?

Attorneys for the family of a California shooter are cautioning the public against rushing to judgment about terrorist connections to the attack.

Mohammad Abuershaid and David Chesley, who represent Syed Farook's family, said there's no proof linking the shooters to a broader terrorist organization and most of the evidence focuses on Facebook posts made under an alias by Farook's wife, Tashfeen Malik.


When asked to explain possible motivations for the attack, Chesley said at a news conference Friday that co-workers made fun of Farook for his beard and said he was isolated with few friends.

Abuershaid and Chesley said the family was shocked by the attack that left 14 people dead and they saw no signs that the couple would be aggressive or had extreme views.

The FBI has said it's investigating the shooting as an act of terrorism.

What an obscene crock of excrement!

Made fun of his beard? Is that the best defense these shylock mouthpieces can come up with?

[wesw]

[Lord Jim]

This looks to me like a single shooter with a compliant wife as an accomplice.

The fact that he is a Muslim is somewhat incidental. I don't think there is any of ideological terrorism to this at all.

Oh, dear, oh dear...

Wrong again Your Royal Wrongness...

F.B.I. Treating San Bernardino Attack as Terrorism Case

WASHINGTON — On the day she and her husband killed 14 people and wounded 21 others in San Bernardino, Calif., a woman pledged allegiance to the Islamic State in a Facebook post, officials said Friday, as the F.B.I. announced that it was treating the massacre as an act of terrorism.

“The investigation so far has developed indications of radicalization by the killers, and of potential inspiration by foreign terrorist organizations,” the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, said at a news conference here.

The woman, Tashfeen Malik, declared allegiance to the Islamic State on Facebook at roughly the time of the shooting on Wednesday, according to a Facebook spokesman. At a news conference in San Bernardino, David Bowdich, the F.B.I. assistant director in charge of the Los Angeles office, said he was aware of the post, which was taken down by Facebook on Wednesday, but he would not elaborate.

“There’s a number of pieces of evidence which has essentially pushed us off the cliff to say we are considering this an act of terrorism,” he said.

The attack could prove to be the deadliest Islamic State-inspired attack on American soil. Al Qaeda and other groups have carried out — or inspired — lethal assaults in the United States, but the Islamic State, which has a base of operations in Syria and Iraq, and carried out the attack on Paris that killed 130 people last month, has turned into a leading terrorism threat with spreading influence around the world.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/san-bernardino ... d=35573368

Yeah, just a disgruntled employee....

With 12 bombs and 5000 rounds of ammunition sitting in his house, and his wife declaring allegiance to ISIS during the carnage...

Yeah ,the Islamist connection here is "incidental" ...

[Econoline]

Are people killed by terrorists deader than those killed by nutjobs, gangbangers, or police? Are people killed by Islamic terrorists deader than those killed by Christian terrorists?

Just curious.

[Lord Jim]

Are people killed by Islamic terrorists deader than those killed by Christian terrorists?

Absolutely not...

But in modern times, they are certainly far more numerous...

[Econoline]

[Lord Jim]

What mindless garbage...

Sorry to see The NY Daily News sink to such levels...

[Econoline]

Are people killed by Islamic terrorists deader than those killed by Christian terrorists?

Absolutely not...

But in modern times, they are certainly far more numerous...

Well, Americans are still more likely to be shot by a toddler than by a terrorist....

[wesw]

only the dumb ones, we need a little more survival of the fittest in this country anyway

hard as it is for you to believe, all americans aren t helpless metro sexuals who can t handle a gun or dumb gang members who leave their pistol in the kids room so it will be safe.

many americans grow up with guns and handle them expertly, god forbid that they are allowed to defend themselves, or you scaredy cats

[Lord Jim]

Oh, and yet more wrongness from our resident authority on Being Wrong:

Since his wife was from Pakistan but living in Saudi Arabia I'm guessing she was a domestic worker there with few marriage or other career choices.

Malik, 27, belonged to an educated, politically influential family from Karor Lal Esan in Layyah district. Malik Ahmad Ali Aulakh, one of her father’s cousins, was a provincial minister from 2008-13.

Residents said the Aulakh family is known to have connections to militant Islam.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

ETA:

Since you're such a stalwart, self-proclaimed adherent to "facts" rube, how do you feel about that fact?

[Lord Jim]

Well, Americans are still more likely to be shot by a toddler than by a terrorist....

Americans are more likely to be struck by lightening while carrying a toddler than to be shot by a lone mental case shooting up a Planned Parenthood facility, but a lot of folks were running around with their hair on fire about what a grave "terrorism" threat that was...

[rubato]

Oh, and yet more wrongness from our resident authority on Being Wrong:

Since his wife was from Pakistan but living in Saudi Arabia I'm guessing she was a domestic worker there with few marriage or other career choices.

Malik, 27, belonged to an educated, politically influential family from Karor Lal Esan in Layyah district. Malik Ahmad Ali Aulakh, one of her father’s cousins, was a provincial minister from 2008-13.

Residents said the Aulakh family is known to have connections to militant Islam.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

ETA:

Since you're such a stalwart, self-proclaimed adherent to "facts" rube, how do you feel about that fact?

The fact that I labeled speculation, as such, has escaped your attention.

Hatred makes you stupid, and it shows. A fact which you insist on demonstrating over and over again.


yrs,
rubato

[Lord Jim]

So that would mean you "guessed"...

Oh what's the word...

Oh yes...

"Wrong"...

Still standing by this one, Mr. Wrong?:

The fact that he is a Muslim is somewhat incidental. I don't think there is any of ideological terrorism to this at all.

Or are you ready to admit you "guessed" wrong about that one too?

Rube, maybe you could contact Obama and ask him to make you The Secretary Of Being Wrong...

(Lord knows he could use one; he's spending way too much of his own time doing the job himself...)

But don't take the post unless they also give you authority over the The Bureau of Yanking Assertions Out Of Your Ass and Making Shit Up ....

You really ought to be in charge of both....

[rubato]

So far the picture is of a very socially isolated man who happens to be Muslim. He then marries a very traditional Muslim woman who is even more isolated than he is and who he can thus dominate psychologically. I was right about her limited English skills, btw.


There are zero connections to any ideologically Muslim terrorist groups and his targets are entirely personal, not based on anything beyond his own narrow little world. They are not chosen to further some larger purpose. The driving force for his actions are his own inner demons although I would not be surprised if he used his identity as a Muslim to help explain to himself his social isolation.


He suffers from Anomie. While he went to the Mosque frequently he didn't socialize with anyone there, barely spoke to the Imam.


I'll wait and see what develops but so far there is no more evidence that this is "Muslim terrorism" than there is that the Planned Parenthood shooting was "Christian Terrorism".


yrs,
rubato

[MajGenl.Meade]

I'll wait and see what develops but so far there is no more evidence that this is "Muslim terrorism" than there is that the Planned Parenthood shooting was "Christian Terrorism".

An adulterous, criminal, bastard producing, mentally defective, non-church going, isolated, rapist goes postal with a gun after a lifetime of showing escalating violent behavior. He surrenders to police in what appears to be a state of confusion and uncertainty

Two apparently quiet and faithful people, living within society, with no history of violence, at least one of them "devout" while the other makes an FB post in support of ISIS, in contact with radical Islamic elements, plan a careful and murderous assault having equipped themselves with an excess of weaponry and uniforms (those are a bit of a give-away; they love uniforms), with bombs planted and facilities to make more, conduct an efficient massacre of a large group of people in a confined space and (apparently) have every intent of repeating the performance and far from surrendering go out with guns blazing as martyrs.

rubato declares that the first of those fits the classic image of Christian terrorism (with which we are all so, so familiar) neither more nor less than the second fits the classic image of Islamic terrorism.

Your bigotry is showing again, rubato