Pope approves use of condoms to prevent HIV transmission

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Pope approves use of condoms to prevent HIV transmission

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From USA Today:
VATICAN CITY — Using a condom is a lesser evil than transmitting HIV to a sexual partner — even if that means a woman averts a possible pregnancy, the Vatican said Tuesday, signaling a significant shift in papal teaching as it explained Pope Benedict XVI's comments.

The Vatican has long been criticized for its patent opposition to condom use, particularly in Africa where AIDS is rampant. But the latest interpretation of Benedict's comments about condoms and HIV essentially means the Roman Catholic Church is acknowledging that its long-held, anti-birth control stance against condoms doesn't justify putting someone's life at risk.

"This is a game-changer," said the Rev. James Martin, a Jesuit editor and writer. "By acknowledging that condoms help prevent spread of HIV between people in sexual relationships, the pope has completely changed the Catholic discussion on condoms."

The change came on a day when U.N. AIDS officials announced that the number of new HIV cases has fallen significantly — thanks to condom use — and a U.S. medical journal published a study showing that a daily pill could help prevent spread of the virus among gay men.

"This is a great day in the fight against AIDS ... a major milestone," said Mitchell Warren, head of the AIDS Vaccine Advocacy Coalition

In Africa, AIDS activists, clerics and ordinary Africans alike applauded the pope's revised comments.

"I say hurrah for Pope Benedict," exclaimed Linda-Gail Bekker, chief executive of South Africa's Desmond Tutu HIV Foundation. She said the pope's statement may prompt many people to "adopt a simple lifestyle strategy to protect themselves."

Worldwide, 33 million people live with HIV.

In Sierra Leone, the director of the National AIDS Secretariat predicted condom use would now increase, lowering the number of new infections.

"Once the pope has made a pronouncement, his priests will be in the forefront in advocating for their perceived use of condoms," said Dr. Brima Kargbo.

Vatican spokesman the Rev. Federico Lombardi said Benedict knew full well that his new comments would provoke intense debate. Conservative Catholics have been trying to minimize the scope of what he said since excerpts were published this weekend in the Vatican newspaper.

Lombardi praised Benedict for his "courage" in confronting the problem.

"He did it because he believed that it was a serious, important question in the world of today," Lombardi said, adding that the pope wanted to give his perspective on the need for a greater humanized, responsible sexuality.

Benedict said, in a book released Tuesday, that condom use by people such as male prostitutes was a lesser evil since it indicated they were moving toward a more moral and responsible sexuality by aiming to protect their partner from a deadly infection. On Tuesday, the Vatican expanded the comments to include women.

Benedict received a copy of the book Light of the World during an audience Tuesday with the author, Peter Seewald, who conducted several hour-long interviews with the pontiff last summer.

"I hope that this book is useful for the faith of many people," Benedict said.

The pope's comments in the book implied that he was referring primarily to homosexual sex, when condoms aren't being used as a form of contraception. Questions arose immediately about the pope's intent, though, because the Italian translation of the book used the feminine for prostitute, whereas the original German used the masculine.
What is laughable is the gaggle of Catholic ethicists coming out to say that this doesn't really represent any sort of change in Church policy on the use of condoms against HIV. It is a remarkable about face, and the Church should hang its head in shame for taking so long to endorse what might have saved millions of lives if they had been prepared to live in the 20th century with the rest of us as the epidemic raged.

What next, Pope declares earth is not flat? Pope approves use of electric light?
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But, but, but if people start using condoms, where is the supply of sexy young altar boys going to come from...
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The Real Deal:

The Catholic Church has a long history of refusing to address questions with the following formulation: "If your are engaged in a illicit sexual relationship/encounter, then is it morally acceptable to..."

The Church's position is, "Don't engage in such relationships/encounters. End of story."

Thus, it would never countenance questions of unmarried copulators using birth control, sodomities using condoms, adulterers having abortions, and so forth.

Il Papa simply chose to address a question with the odious formulation. The Church's position hasn't changed. OF COURSE if you are a homosexual prostitute you should use a condom. OF COURSE if you are single and in a sexual relationship you should use birth control, etc. etc.

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Nice try Dave, but if that is what the Church has truly always believed, then Catholic agencies would have had no problem over the past 30 years distributing condoms to singles/gays/prostitutes etc. They have NEVER done so. You wouldn't have seen so many Church spokespeople trying to justify the Church's no-condoms-ever position by claiming condoms were ineffective or, even more bizarrely, actually facilitated the spread of HIV.

Like the Church's apology to Galileo, this a a complete 180.
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It may be a complete change is church policy, but I for one, am surely glad it has occurred.

It's about bloody time.
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Scooter, no offense, but your thinking is flawed.

The Church doesn't formally deal with sinful premises. You have to use your own fucking head. If you have HIV and are continuing to engage in sodomy with strangers, OF COURSE you should use a condom, but the Church isn't going to put a basket of condoms in the vestibule for sodomites to grab a handful. If you are engaged in an adulterous relationship, OF COURSE you should use birth control, but you won't hear a priest in the confessional telling an adulterer, "Well, next time you're fucking your paramour,..." The Church doesn't accept sinful behaviour as a premise to a moral question.

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And yet, it just did, so clearly the Church does. About 30 years too late, in this case, to save millions who have died needlessly, but there you are.
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