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LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE

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Campaign truthiness: Presented without comment.
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thank you , raybato

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Is there a pattern there?




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Oooh, teacher! Me! Me, miss!

Is it that a Democrat is the only one who managed never to tell the truth? Is that it? Is it?

Where's my ice cream?
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MajGenl.Meade wrote:Oooh, teacher! Me! Me, miss!

Is it that a Democrat is the only one who managed never to tell the truth? Is that it? Is it?

Where's my ice cream?

Where do you see that? :shrug
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Martin O'Malley - his best was "mostly true"
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And Ben Carson and Donald Trump ... even less "mostly true"

Selective reading much?
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So then Carson and Trump also managed to never tell the truth.


eta: Cross-posted with Guin, who also can read a chart. ;)
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Well I don't count those two!


ETA and those two don't count)
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BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE

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The Trumpster comes in as the most egregious of the lying liars. Lying with impunity his mesmerized sycophants give him a pass.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fac ... s-of-2015/
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A quick look at the party affiliation of the named individuals tells you all you need to know about this "study."

Leftist garbage.

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dgs49 wrote:A quick look at the party affiliation of the named individuals tells you all you need to know about this "study."

Leftist garbage.
You mean you know the party affiliation of the people who put the article together - Bill Marsh and Angie Drobnic Holan?

Or your take-away is that because the republicans are recorded as telling huge, fat, whopping falsehoods more often than the democrats, truth is "leftist garbage" ?

You are a strange person. Are you wesw?
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Some new campaign slogans for the Klown Krewe:


Lindsey Graham: "I'm almost as truthful as a Democrat".

Ben Carson : "More frugal with the truth than anyone."

Trumpy; "My pants on fire are the brightest beacon of hope for the silent masses yearning to be conned."

Carly: "My ass is a bonfire of falsehood for the faithful. And I had to be twice as good to be third-best."


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meade believes anything that is printed in the paper, they would not print it if it wasn t true..., and the NY Times is neutral, they are journalists

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If you are able to disprove their claims of what is or is not factual, or the methodology they used to compile it, then have at it. Lobbing sarcastic barbs to cast doubt on the findings isn't a substitute for actually showing how they are wrong.
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And on a similar note:

10 Biggest Lies and Distortions From the GOP Debate

Alleging it to be bs without showing where they are wrong is to concede that they are correct.
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This is from the Tampa fact checker, and most conservatives have noted the liberal bias in the facts chosen as well as the analysis. This points out the flaw in the study, namely, the completely subjective selection of facts to check makes this completely unscientific (even if you accept the analysis), though it may well be accurate with respect to any of those on the list.

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Well there you go again Long Run, trying to interject dispassionate, objective, rational analysis into the discussion...

We'll have none of that 'round here...
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Any evidence of this alleged liberal bias in the facts and analysis? Or yet again nothing but bald assertion from whining conservatives who scream bias whenever the facts show them for what they are?

Good to see the usual suspects in agreement that denials without evidence constitute "dispassionate, objective, rational analysis". Of course, they would have to, in absence of anything to support their accusations.
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