It's a hobby

[wesw]

wow. I would not step foot on a boat that was kept in such a state of disarray.

the deck is littered with detritus.

how could you even walk fore to aft or port to starboard with out tripping and falling overboard.

they should re christen it..., the Hillary

...maybe they tipped it over in an attempt to clean their deck up?

I m no neat freak, but there must be order in such an environment.

[wesw]

[rubato]

They made it from Norway to there, they might make it. Are any of the bookies offering a line on it?


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rubato

[wesw]

if I still gambled I would give bet 3-2 that they would not make it across the north atlantic.

but I would hope that they didn t even try.

[MajGenl.Meade]

There's a BBC video available on this page St Ives Times Echo reporting on their previous mishap.

Interestingly, in a brief interview with a St Ives fisherman, he says they are all fed up with "those two" but more tellingly he off-handedly predicts that if they tried to bring their boat into the harbour there, it would "tip over".

And that's exactly what happened at this 8th incident in a different port. Smart fellers, these everyday Cornish fisherfolk. Or something like smart fellers anyway.

[wesw]

I watched that clip that meade linked to...

at the end they said that the fellows were heading around lands end...

I checked out Lands End when gob was on holiday...

those guys are nuts.


...and I think the Cornish fisherman meant that if they had moored up where they were first going to, the boat would have tipped over when the tide went out, it had a deeper draft than the other vessels I saw in the shot.

what kind of boat was that? does your swede know, guin?

the only sailing boats that I ve been around have been skipjacks.

skipjacks are graceful and sleek.

that boat looks fat and wobbly.

[Guinevere]

Hey, that was my analysis of the boat's shortcomings. I've been sailing since I was a baby, which is long before I met the Swede. He only laughed when I sent him the story link.

So poking around, it appears the boat is a classic Norwegian life saving boat. Stable enough to take waves and be held alongside another boat. But that's not too far offshore. The difference between a 10' for coastal wave and a 30' North Atlantic winter wave is, I think, enough to swamp and sink that boat.

I found a sailing website that included comments and photos of someone who went and saw the boat. Said it looked beautiful and was probably well-kept to start, but these two yahoos had beat the hell out of it already. No one in that forum was recommending that they cross the North Atlantic in it.

I commend their adventurous spirit, but I really hope they ship their boat, or hire a master if there is someone reputable and experiences who thinks it can be sailed to Maine.

[wesw]

I just asked if your swede knew because he was Scandinavian and the the boat was Norwegian so I thought he might be familiar with it.

have you seen any similar boats around America?

[Guinevere]

I haven't, and I still think it looks like a river or canal boat.

But, we have a lifesaving museum here. I may go do a little research on sailing life-boats if I get the chance.

[RayThom]

Arrr, matey. These ol' tars don't appear to be more than five minutes away from their next ration of grog.

Their teeth say British but their passports say USA.
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/senior-sa ... e-atlantic

Everybody sing:
"Who's that knocking at my door?"...
Cried the fair young maiden.
"It's only me from over the sea", says Bicycle Bill the Sailor.
"I'm all lit up like a Christmas tree", says Bicycle Bill the Sailor.
"I'll sail the sea until I croak, I fight 'n swear 'n drink 'n smoke,
But I can't swim a bloody stroke", says Bicycle Bill the Sailor.

[Bicycle Bill]

Arrr, matey. These ol' tars don't appear to be more than five minutes away from their next ration of grog.

Their teeth say British but their passports say USA.
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/senior-sa ... e-atlantic

Everybody sing:
"Who's that knocking at my door?"...
Cried the fair young maiden.
"It's only me from over the sea", says Bicycle Bill the Sailor.
"I'm all lit up like a Christmas tree", says Bicycle Bill the Sailor.
"I'll sail the sea until I croak, I fight 'n swear 'n drink 'n smoke,
But I can't swim a bloody stroke", says Bicycle Bill the Sailor.

"Would ye like to come up to me quarters and see me lifesavin' medals 'n certif'cates?  Then we kin maybe practice some artificial resp'ration...."

Hey — it's worked more often than that old line about etchings.

-"BB"-

[Lord Jim]

I tried to feel some sympathy for these morons....

Didn't work...

[Guinevere]

They're not morons LJ, they're men!

[Bicycle Bill]

if I still gambled I would give bet 3-2 that they would not make it across the north atlantic.

but I would hope that they didn t even try.

I'd give 3-2 against their being able to make it across the harbor on anything but a perfect blue-sky, light wind, and millpond-smooth day.  They remind me of someone who has just gotten their Boy Scout canoeing merit badge and now thinks they are capable of pulling off a week-long trek through the Boundary Waters canoe area in northern Minnesota.  Trust me, it will only end in tears.

-"BB"-

[MajGenl.Meade]

I think you're right - but they did make it from Norway down through the English Channel, one of the roughest and most congested national waters around.

[rubato]

Actually they went the other way around:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... antic.html




With a few stops to enjoy the countryside.


Apparently the boat tipped over because the water was shallow and the tide went out. Making a prediction by a local a less impressive.


Its less dangerous than flying a squirrel suit, go for it old dudes! Go out awash with glory, or, you know, deadly seawater. Cold north Atlantic seawater.


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rubato

[MG McAnick]

 They remind me of someone who has just gotten their Boy Scout canoeing merit badge and now thinks they are capable of pulling off a week-long trek through the Boundary Waters canoe area in northern Minnesota.  Trust me, it will only end in tears.

Now wait a minute. THAT'S how I GOT my canoeing merit badge. I don't remember any tears, just a guide who was a complete jerk. Uhhh, there's more to that story, but I just deleted it.

[MajGenl.Meade]

Yes rube, unlike these two the "local" knew there were tides. They "knew" it but failed to tie the boat properly. He was pointing to their general incompetence.

Thanks for the clarification on the route.

[rubato]

Yes rube, unlike these two the "local" knew there were tides. They "knew" it but failed to tie the boat properly. He was pointing to their general incompetence.

Thanks for the clarification on the route.

Local conditions. I would not expect someone more used to places where the harbors were deep enough to float a sailboat at low tide to know this was not true at this particular place where they have never been before.


When the tsunami from Japan reached across the Pacific and dealt a glancing blow to the local harbor sailboats were dumped on their keels when the water rushed out of the harbor. Get over yourself.


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rubato

[MajGenl.Meade]

Yep, a tsunami in the Pacific has a lot to do with small fishing harbors in Cornwall.

Thanks for being mean-spirited - a foolish consistency is normal.