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UK scientists have been given the go-ahead by the fertility regulator to genetically modify human embryos.

It is the first time a country has considered the DNA-altering technique in embryos and approved it.

The research will take place at the Francis Crick Institute in London and aims to provide a deeper understanding of the earliest moments of human life.

It will be illegal for the scientists to implant the modified embryos into a woman.

But the field is attracting controversy over concerns it is opening the door to designer - or GM - babies.

DNA is the blueprint of life - the instructions for building the human body. Gene editing allows the precise manipulation of DNA.

In a world-first last year, scientists in China announced they had carried out gene editing in human embryos to correct a gene that causes a blood disorder.

Prof Robin Lovell-Badge, a scientific advisor to the UK's fertility regulator, told the BBC: "China has guidelines, but it is often unclear exactly what they are until you've done it and stepped over an unclear boundary.

"This is the first time it has gone through a properly regulatory system and been approved."

The work will be led by Dr Kathy Niakan, who has spent a decade researching human development.

Earlier this year, she explained why she had applied to edit human embryos: "We would really like to understand the genes needed for a human embryo to develop successfully into a healthy baby.

"The reason why it is so important is because miscarriages and infertility are extremely common, but they're not very well understood."

Out of every 100 fertilised eggs, fewer than 50 reach the early blastocyst stage, 25 implant into the womb and only 13 develop beyond three months.

And at the blastocyst stage, some cells have been organised to perform specific roles - some go on to form the placenta, others the yolk sac and others ultimately us.

How and why this takes place is unknown - but some parts of our DNA are highly active at this stage.

It is likely these genes are guiding our early development, but it is unclear exactly what they are doing or what goes wrong in miscarriage.

The researchers will alter these genes in donated embryos, which will be destroyed after seven days.

The regulator, the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority (HFEA), has given its approval and the experiments could start in the next few months.
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I will say it right now ..... This is
A.
Bad.
Thing.

Because you know what will happen ... people will create "designer babies" in much the same way kennel breeders and puppy mills are creating "designer dogs".  And the world is not ready, nor will it ever be, for a flood of Justin Bieber or Miley Cyrus clones.
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Bicycle Bill wrote: Miley Cyrus clones.

Put me down for 2.
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I'd put you down for less than that...
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Miley Cyrus ,really ?
How come we cannot clone stem cells ? :shrug

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I'm with BB on this.
Only bad will come of this.

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It is probably going to have unintended consequences .

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Gob wrote:
Bicycle Bill wrote: Miley Cyrus clones.

Put me down for 2.
You do realize that the clone would not born all grown up and totally whacky don't you?
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I can wait.
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What would they end up with if they cloned Bruce Jenner? Another person who will change sexes at age 65?

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We already have a book about this, and know how things turn out.

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But is the final chapter written yet?

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YA-HOO!

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It's Mountain Don't. Here's the worst genetically modified animal.
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RayThom wrote:It's Mountain Don't. Here's the worst genetically modified animal.
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Oh my God, Ray.  I had heard about it, but since I was at work during the Super Bowl I was one of the fortunate few who had not seen that commercial.  Then you blindside me by posting that picture. Having seen even that little bit, I know that there is no amount of brain bleach that will ever remove that image from my mind. Thanks a lot!

I suppose I should be grateful for small favors — at least you didn't post a video of the commercial itself.  Had you done that, I suppose I would have had no choice but to lobotomize myself.
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The thing is I get the joke and the concept behind it but the execution was completely fucked up. Perhaps if the people in the ad reacted with abject horror instead of mild confusion.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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Ray, have somebody video it for us.... :lol: :shock:

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Crackpot wrote:The thing is I get the joke and the concept behind it but the execution was completely fucked up. Perhaps if the people in the ad reacted with abject horror instead of mild confusion.
This seemed to be the year of the freaky commercial, with the Doritos baby birth, the Super Bowl babies (yuck!), and on and on.

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