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Gob
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Re: In or out?

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Oh yes, I can vote, and will register to. It's in my interest as I intend retiring back to the UK in about 4 years time.

It's possible to be Irish and British you know?
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Please tell us more. Will this referendum, if it is overwhelmingly to get out, require the Republic of Ireland to remove itself from the EU?

What is the degree of independence for the Republic from the UK? Or do political writers from the UK prefer to pretend Northern Ireland is the only Ireland?

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I don't think they're just talking about Northern Ireland Strop...

(If that article is accurate; maybe it isn't)
Citizens from EU countries - apart from Ireland, Malta and Cyprus - will not get a vote.
Presumably these are citizens of these countries who reside in the UK that will be able to vote (Like citizens of Commonwealth countries that live in the UK being able to vote)

Personally, I don't understand why any non-citizens of the UK are being allowed to vote, whether they live their or not...

Do British citizens who "reside" in Zambia or Uganda get to vote in their elections?
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It's possible to be Irish and British you know?
Of course I knew that Northern Ireland is part of the UK--and that Ireland itself is not. * Which is what I thought liberty misunderstood, until I actually read the link you posted. It now also seems odd to me that Irish, Maltese, and Cypriot citizens would be able to vote in a UK referendum.



  • * "Ireland is a European country on the island of Ireland. It is a member of the European Union. The country is sometimes called the Republic of Ireland, but Ireland is its official name."
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from my reading of it , it seemed to refer to dual irish-english, (and maltese-english..etc) citizens .....

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That's not my reading of it...

I don't see the word dual any where...
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Eligible voters include UK nationals who have lived overseas for less than 15 years.

How long have you been living overseas, Gob?
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I admit that I am not knowledgeable of the UK voting system, but perhaps whoever made the rules for voting were trying to make rules to produce the out come they wanted.
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perhaps whoever made the rules for voting were trying to make rules to produce the out come they wanted.
Who would do that? :shrug :loon :mrgreen:

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Perhaps, but as I recall, US citizens living outside the US can vote in at least federal (and, depending on state law, state) elections.

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Econoline wrote:
It's possible to be Irish and British you know?
Of course I knew that Northern Ireland is part of the UK--and that Ireland itself is not. * Which is what I thought liberty misunderstood, until I actually read the link you posted. It now also seems odd to me that Irish, Maltese, and Cypriot citizens would be able to vote in a UK referendum.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_ ... ed_Kingdom
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If the UK votes out then Scotland might vote to leave the UK.


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rubato wrote:If the UK votes out then Scotland might vote to leave the UK.

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Wasn't there a failed vote on something like that back in the fall of 2014?  I was wearing an anti-Scott Walker button reading "Scott-Free in 2014" (he was running for re-election as governor of Wisconsin) and someone asked me if I was supporting the movement for Scottish independence.
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Here you go Bill;
A referendum on Scottish independence took place on 18 September 2014.

The independence referendum question, which voters answered with "Yes" or "No", was "Should Scotland be an independent country?"[2] The "No" side won, with 2,001,926 (55.3%) voting against independence and 1,617,989 (44.7%) voting in favour. The turnout of 84.6% was the highest recorded for an election or referendum in the United Kingdom since the introduction of universal suffrage.

The Scottish Independence Referendum Bill, setting out the arrangements for this referendum, was passed by the Scottish Parliament in November 2013, following an agreement between the Scottish and the United Kingdom governments, and was enacted as the Scottish Independence Referendum Act 2013. To pass, the independence proposal required a simple majority. With some exceptions, all European Union (EU) or Commonwealth citizens resident in Scotland aged 16 or over could vote, a total of almost 4.3 million people.

Yes Scotland was the main campaign group for independence, while Better Together was the main campaign group in favour of maintaining the union. Many other campaign groups, political parties, businesses, newspapers and prominent individuals were also involved. Prominent issues raised during the referendum included which currency an independent Scotland would use, public expenditure, EU membership, and North Sea oil.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_ ... ndum,_2014
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In narrow material terms Scottish independence is worse for Scotland unless the ... in the UK vote to leave the EU in which case the balance might flip over far enough
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There is a serious problem with the currency, and Scotland will not want to adopt the euro nor will it be attractive to use the Pound so ... its an open question. The Norwegian Kroner would be better than either of the above if it is an option.


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Well, if a guy with rube's demonstrated knowledge and understanding of economics thinks that leaving the EU will be bad for the British economy, that pretty much settles it...

Obviously it will mean an economic boom...
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:funee: :funee: :funee:
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LJ locks up the obese tow truck driver vote.

Wow.

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