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Big RR wrote:jIm--you really enjoyed the debate last night? I only watched a few minutes, but it seemed to me that the moderators were giving Trump carte blanche to do what he wanted, and it turned into Jerry Springer. Pretty sad IMHO.
Big RR, in a perfect world, I would have preferred a nomination fight built around experience, knowledge, and policy ideas...

But in that world, Jeb Bush, John Kasich and Lindsey Graham would have been standing in the three center positions last night...

In this nominating cycle, those qualities are pretty much seen as negatives... :loon

So at this point, the question for me becomes, "What is the best way to stop Donald Trump?"

Because stopping Trump, by any means possible, is Priority One....

If I thought that the best way to accomplish this was for one of the other candidates to walk out on the stage and hit Trump in the face with a cream pie and squirt seltzer down his pants, I'd be all for it...

And Rubio is now essentially doing that, and he's doing it effectively...

Not just last night, where thanks to Marco, the bully was the one who finally got the wedgie...

But also today, in speeches in Dallas and Oklahoma City, (where Rubio drew much bigger crowds than he has before; speeches that were covered live on all three cable news channels) "The Rubio-bot" has become "Marco Unplugged"...

And he seems very easy and comfortable in this new role...exposing the "Con artist who says he's for the little guy but has made his whole career screwing over the little guy"...

And brilliantly ridiculing and diminishing Trump by mocking his tweets and counter attacks...

He is very effectively using Trump's techniques against him....

(Hell, after listening to what Rubio said today, I'd have thought I was writing his lines...)

I'm going to start a thread that goes into more detail about this tomorrow, but so long as Marco keeps this up, there may still be a chance to bring down the naked emperor... :ok

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Eagle Scout, by chance?

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Eagle Scout, by chance?
Perhaps...(it was the only Rubio image I could find that would fit next to my Redskins image; which of course I will never remove 8-)) ...he's certainly earned a merit badge for his new way of dealing with Donald Trump...

In fact, I have become so re-invigorated (after months of increasing political depression) by not only Marco's new approach, but the skillful way he his executing it, and the effectiveness that it is having with the media narrative, that I am prepared, (at least for now) to believe that there could be a better option for choosing the next President than "a watery tart throwing a sword from the bottom of a lake"....

Hence the change in my sig-line... 8-)
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Rubio may have got in some good jabs last night, but he was doing so out of desperation. What took him so long? Meanwhile, Cruz continued to look like a Blue Meany with no clout.
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LJ, you inspired me to watch the debate, which I'm watching now. Rubio is on fire! Whoever is working with him deserves some kudos for getting him into fighting mode. Tearing up Obama and his R opponents.

Cruz is slimy.

Trump is disgusting; I keep hoping it's all just one big elaborate practical joke that he's going to reveal when it's too late for the R party to recover and challenge the D nominee.
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it appears that joe guy is the only one who isn t living in fantasy land about Donald and/or melania trump....

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Rubio is on fire! Whoever is working with him deserves some kudos for getting him into fighting mode.
BSG, either watch or read the transcripts of his two speeches today...

He gets even better...

It's enough to make me ask, "okay, who are you, and what have you done with Marco Rubio?"

(As recently as a couple of days ago, there was a lot of speculation that Rubio and Trump were going easy on each other with an eye towards Marco becoming Trumpty's running mate... that playbook is obviously out the window...)

But if the old Marco Rubio has been replaced by a space alien, then I'm 100% behind the space alien... :ok
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But you guys must realise that the rest of the world want you to vote in President Trump right?
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Trumpty thought he'd be able to derail Marco's new found impact with Chris Christie's endorsement...

That was good for about half a news cycle...

Christie spent 172 days in New Hampshire, did over a 100 town hall meetings, and wound up with 6% of the vote in the NH primary to show for it...

That's how influential he is...

In the meantime, every day between now and next Tuesday and March 15th, Rubio will command media attention, not just by attacking and ridiculing Trump, but by keeping the attacks and ridicule "fresh"...

"Oh look at what Donald tweeted about me today..."Marco's a leet weight who sweets too much..."
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Lord Jim wrote:She's Trophy Wife #3...
I was wondering whether it was his wife or his granddaughter, I haven't exactly been keeping track.
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Lord Jim wrote:
In the meantime, every day between now and next Tuesday and March 15th, Rubio will command media attention, not just by attacking and ridiculing Trump, but by keeping the attacks and ridicule "fresh"...

"Oh look at what Donald tweeted today..."Marco's a leet weight who sweets too much..."
As you mentioned, there had to be big changes to make it possible for Rubio to overtake Trump. The first thing was to have a strong debate and become a stronger campaigner. The second thing was to break the Trump media stranglehold. There is no better example of the moral bankruptcy of modern media than the symbiotic relationship between Trump and the media. He says something outrageous, they swarm all over it with coverage; he gets attention (denying it to real candidates) and voter-cred for being anti-PC and anti-establishment, and the media gets rich from advertising revenue. If Rubio has found a way to take the media away from all-Trump all the time, then he has shot.

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We finally have a candidate who is willing to take on Trump for what he is...

A complete "con artist"...

It's about fuckin' time... :ok

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Hey, I'd be more than happy to spend 36 thousand dollars to have my picture taken with a cardboard cut-out of Donald Trump...

if I were doing an incredible amount of drugs...

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That's a cardboard cut-out of Trump on the right-hand side...

It's superior to the original in at least one respect...

It doesn't talk...
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Gob wrote:But you guys must realise that the rest of the world want you to vote in President Trump right?
Since when has America ever really given a rat's ass about how the rest of the world feels — about us as a nation, our politics, or anything else?
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Since when has America ever really given a rat's ass about how the rest of the world feels — about us as a nation, our politics, or anything else?
Which is as it should be... 8-)
There is no better example of the moral bankruptcy of modern media than the symbiotic relationship between Trump and the media. He says something outrageous, they swarm all over it with coverage; he gets attention (denying it to real candidates)
Oh man, no truer words were ever spoken...

The ratings driven media system, in this cycle more than ever before, has done an enormous disservice to the cause of American democracy...

On what planet does it make any kind of sense where serious minded accomplished men like Lindsey Graham and George Pataki cant even get a hearing, while a vulgar rodeo clown like The-Trump-Thing dominates the coverage and the debate for months on end... :loon :shrug

But we are where we are, and if the only way for responsible people to bring down this toxic snake oil salesman is to beat him at his own game and shove it up his ass, then that's what needs to be done...
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you act like this is some new tactic.

you and the media have been attacking and ridiculing trump since the outset...

perry, Jindal, paul, graham, and bush have all taken that tack and have been blown into the rocks.

the ONLY chance that anyone has (or had) to beat trump is to come up with better ideas. a better plan for America.

Kasich is the only one who had (or has) a chance to do that, and you all abandoned him for the low road and the politics of destruction.

every attack sets the jaw of another segment of America.

by all means, keep it coming. Rubio looks like the punk ass high school football player that he has never grown past.

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perry, Jindal, paul, graham, and bush have all taken that tack and have been blown into the rocks.
Ahh yes, but this time it's being done in a sustained and effective way...

The bully is not just being attacked, he's being stood up to...thwarted...repeatedly and consistently.... ridiculed...

Rubio is out bullying the bully...

Let's see what Marco says at his rally today 8-)

(I guarantee you there will be a lot of press coverage... :ok )

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BTW, does Trumpty have any more misspellings in his tweets?

Well, that's what happens when you offshore your twitter account... 8-)

Or maybe that's the way they spell things at The Wharton School of Business.. :D
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ok, so Rubio get s the grammar Nazi vote.... 8-)

other than that he is just another poor imitation of trump now.

I m not seeing what you are seeing....

maybe if you lent me your rose coloured glasses.....

....I could wear them as I walked past the graveyard...., whistling.

maybe then I would see.... :geek:


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Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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