Amazing, what a wonderful place to live!Scooter wrote:Apparently several of these laws have provisions for checking IDs at restroom entrances to ensure that the sex listed on the ID matches the restroom they are entering. So not quite as invasive as you suggest, but similarly degrading to all concerned.
Well, that would still seem to be a really foolish use of scarce law enforcement resources...Apparently several of these laws have provisions for checking IDs at restroom entrances to ensure that the sex listed on the ID matches the restroom they are entering.
You don't have to worry about that, Old Darling...Anyone requesting ID to check my gender...
Lord Jim wrote:You don't have to worry about that, Old Darling...Anyone requesting ID to check my gender...
Much more likely that they'd request your ID to check your species...
CHARLOTTE, NC (WBTV) -
Controversy over North Carolina's new law blocking anti-discrimination rules covering the LGBT community has made national headlines and now the Charlotte Regional Visitors Authority (CRVA) says conventions are pulling out of Charlotte.
The CRVA says four conventions that were booked in Charlotte have now canceled the event in the Queen City over House Bill 2. WBTV broke the story Friday afternoon after a source gave WBTV's Molly Grantham the information. The CRVA later confirmed the numbers.
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According to the CRVA, four conventions have officially canceled their dates in Charlotte, citing House Bill 2. Officials say that translates to 1,137 room nights gone for hotels in Charlotte.
On top of the four canceled conventions, nine other conventions who were looking at Charlotte are saying they will no longer be looking at the city to be the host. That's considered a "lost opportunity" and translates into a potential 12,231 room nights not used.
WBTV also learned that 29 other groups have now said they are "hesitant" about bringing their convention to Charlotte. If all these groups pulled out, that's 89,723 room nights that will be lost.
But it doesn't. The L and the G (homosexual) community is not at all impacted. I don't think the Bs are either - isn't a bisexual a person who has it both ways (but in fact, is only one gender and dresses accordingly)?LGBT community
That was the excuse, but the reach of the law goes far beyond that. It explicitly excludes sexual orientation and gender identity from the list of protected classes under state law. It vitiates any municipal anti-discrimination ordinance that provides protections beyond those provided under state law. And it prevents state courts from being used to advance any claim of discrimination not explicitly enumerated in state law.Joe Guy wrote:The only reason the law was created was because there are people who think a transgender person might molest a child in the bathroom.
Charlotte, NC — NBA Commissioner Adam Silver held a press conference today, announcing that Charlotte, North Carolina will no longer be hosting the 2017 All-Star game due to the state’s recent passing of the anti-LGBT law HB2.
“With this new law in place, Charlotte currently does not have any anti-discrimination protection in place, something that would be vital for a large event such as the All-Star Game,” Silver told reporters. “We are giving the state of North Carolina 30 days to repeal this law or they can expect the 2017 All-Star game to be held elsewhere. I want to make it clear that the NBA will not stand for this type of intolerance and hate.”
'You didn’t tell me you was married to no black man. It’s a big problem with my church and my community. They don’t allow that.'
Are you comfortable with a man using the rest room next to your preteen daughter?Lord Jim wrote:Okay, I'm having a little trouble sorting this out....
Maybe it's because unless someone is looking at me in a menacing way, I generally go out of my way to avoid checking out who else might be with me in a public rest room...
It's not a big area of interest for me...
I'm generally focused on getting my "business" done as quickly as possible, and leaving...
I am assuming that the greatest level of "concern" here, is that someone who was born genetically male, but has decided to " self-identify" as female, will choose to use the "Ladies Room"...
Frankly, as a practical matter, my response to that "concern" is "so what?"...
Going to all that trouble just to be able to catch a sight of some women's "naughty bits" (which is highly unlikely anyway, given the way the "Ladies Room" is typically laid out...yes, I've seem a couple of them... quelle suprise,they don't have side-by-side public urinals...)
Seems highly unlikely...
Not to mention the fact that if somebody chooses to use the Ladies Room at a sporting event or a concert, (where the lines are slow and endless) as opposed to the Mens Room..(which has a ready trough and the lines move quickly...)
They must have a high level of commitment...
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And just how is this law supposed to be enforced? Are they going to post law enforcement officers at every public restroom, to check everyone out who's going in?
"Excuse me 'Miss', but you look like you have a prominent Adam's Apple. Please hike up your skirt and drop your panties"....
Are you comfortable with this person using the rest room next to your preteen daughter?Jarlaxle wrote:Are you comfortable with a man using the rest room next to your preteen daughter?
As I kept reading the article Scooter linked to I kept tabbing back to the top, looking to make sure that this wasn't something from the Onion or some other spoof site. I also checked a couple of the other references in the article and did a Google search only to find similar articles on such varied sites as Time.com, TheWeek. com, and independent.co.uk, so I have no choice but to accept that this is the truth. What in the hell is our country coming to?Scooter wrote:Everyone said it was only a matter of time before one of these so-called "religious liberty" laws was used to discriminate against interracial couples, and they were right:'You didn’t tell me you was married to no black man. It’s a big problem with my church and my community. They don’t allow that.'
Well, standing there and posing like that, hell no. I'd be a little reluctant to share the same MALE restroom with him myself. But when you consider that most women's restrooms (and yes, like LJ I've also had reasons — valid ones — for finding myself in a woman's restroom on occasion) are laid out so that each user has a cubicle; it's not like one huge open-air urinal trough or vast shitatorium so the odds of this person or anyone else "checking out" someone's teen-aged daughter are minimal at best.Scooter wrote:Are you comfortable with this person using the rest room next to your preteen daughter?Jarlaxle wrote:Are you comfortable with a man using the rest room next to your preteen daughter?
Because he has a vagina, and according to these ridiculous laws, that makes him a woman, which would require him to use the same restroom as your daughters.
